Confused Immunisation Schedule

[kitcat]

When I picked up my golden retriever (born 13/02/07) I was told she had been immunised at 6 weeks (27/03/07). Her vet card says distemper, hepatitis and parvovirus and the label stuck on the card indicates “Protech Duramune C3”.

The vaccination record indicates the next date for immunisation is 15/05/07 (which I make out to be 13 weeks).

When reading a thread on Puppy Pre-School there was an indication that the immunisation schedule is “ 6,10,12-16 weeks?

So I’m confused,

Should she be getting an immunisation at 10 weeks AND 12 weeks?

I can’t imagine my breeder stuffed that up.

The vet card I was given says

• Puppy Temporary 6-8 weeks

• Puppy Permanent 12-14 weeks

• Puppy Booster 16-18 weeks.

So what’s this 10 week thing?

All this fuss is because Leah is booked in for puppy pre-school next week and she has only had her first shots. The school is run for 8-14 week pups. Then I read a thread about Parvo and how it is important to have 2 sets of shots done before any dog socialisation (now I’m both confused and a tad concerned).

Cath

[Danois]

Angus had had hisnfirst injection when I got him at 9 weeks (at 6 weeks), he got the second at 10 weeks and the next at 14 weeks - every 4 weeks. This was the usual C3, C4 and C5.

Just speak with the vets - they will clear it up for you!

Edited April 21, 2007 by MyCatMilo

[♥Bruno♥]

Yep Bruno had one at 6 weeks, 10 weeks and 14 weeks. I would be very hesitant about taking your pup to preschool if he's only had one shot.

[Monah]

Hi kitkat. probably already been told by others but usually, 6,12, and 16 weeks. Usually C5, sometimes C7 depending on where you live. C7 is for more tropical regions although the virus it protects against is very very rare and only can be caught around cane fields.(RARE).

Where is your pre school? Mine are always at the vets and all puppies vacc. floors disinfected etc. so it's very safe. Nothing has ever gone wrong here (over past 15 years). But if yours is outside on an oval or something I'd be a bit concerned. Parvo can live on in the earth for a long time (over 12 months) which is why you are never to put your dog down anywhere suspect.

Once the pup has it's 12 week vacc you then need to wait 10 days for it to kick in before taking the pup out.

Please be careful. Parvo has an almost 100% death rate.

[Dogsfevr]

Dont be fooled that because its a vet its safe the risk is the same as anywhere the fact is sick dogs attend the vets & not all of it is disinfected nor is the carpark etc.

We vacc at 6,12 & then there is the optional booster.

Its up to you what you do but your breeders card is right but issues in your area could also affect the vets advice so ask have there been any reported parvo cases etc etc otherwise also speak to your breeder

[Jed]

I vaccinate my puppies t wice. Once at 6 - 8 weeks, and a booster at 12 weeks. As they will not be boarding, they receive C3, which covers the diseases they are likely to encounter.

The reason for giving the second vaccination is that the immunity they receive from the first vaccination may be over-ridden by the maternal immunity they receive through the mother's milk. If this occurs, there is NO protection, as one cancels out the other. The second vaccination is to reinforce the first, and the definitely provide protection.

Some vets and breeders are in favour of a 3rd. Personally, I am not. I am concerned about the damage that over-vaccinating can do to the immune system, and having one breed which appeared to develop immune system problems following the introduction of the 3 in 1 vaccine, I am not keen do anything which may possibly damage their immune system.

You need to discuss this with your vet - and hear that he has good reasons for doing what he recommends - and your breeder - ditto.

I have been following the 2 vac. regime for something like 9 years now, and none of the dogs have developed any of the diseases they were vaccinated for.

Below is the vaccinated protocol recommended by Dr. Jean Dodd, a world wide authority on vaccinations from the USA. It was her research which led to the AVA recommending a change to the vaccination protocol used in Aus. some years ago. There is plenty of research to validify her recommendatons.

NEW!!! VACCINATION PROTOCOL

by Dr. Jean Dodd

- ----------------------------------------------------------

VACCINATION NEWSFLASH [CIMDA support] RE: J DODDS VACCINE PROTOCOL

I would like to make you aware that all 27 veterinary schools in

North America are in the process of changing their protocols for

vaccinating dogs and cats. Some of this information will present an ethical

& economic challenge to Vets, and there will be skeptics. Some

organizations have come up with a political compromise suggesting

vaccinations every 3 years to appease those who fear loss of income vs.

those concerned about potential side effects. Politics, traditions, or the

doctors

economic well-being should not be a factor in a medical decision.

NEW PRINCIPLES OF IMMUNOLOGY

Dogs and cats immune systems mature fully at 6 months. If a modified

live virus vaccine is given after 6 months of age, it produces

immunity, which is good for the life of the pet (I.e.: canine distemper,

parvo,feline distemper). If another MLV vaccine is given a year later, the

antibodies from the first vaccine neutralize the antigens of the

second vaccine and there is little or no effect. The titer is not "boosted"

nor are more memory cells induced. Not only are annual boosters for

parvo and distemper unnecessary, they subject the pet to potential risks

of allergic reactions and immune-mediated haemolytic anemia. There is

no scientific documentation to back up label claims for annual

administration of MLV vaccines. Puppies receive antibodies through their

mothers milk. This natural protection can last 8 - 14 weeks. Puppies &

kittens

should NOT be vaccinated at LESS than 8 weeks. Maternal immunity will

neutralize the vaccine and little protection (0-38%) will be produced.

Vaccination at 6 weeks will, however, DELAY the timing of the first highly

effective vaccine. Vaccinations given 2 weeks apart SUPPRESS rather

than stimulate the immune system. A series of vaccinations is given

starting at 8 weeks and given 3-4 weeks apart up to 16 weeks of age. Another

vaccination given sometime after 6 months of age (usually at l year 4 MO)

will provide LIFETIME IMMUNITY.

[rockhard_mastiffs]

We Immunise puppies at 6-8 weeks, 12 and 16 weeks (im pretty sure that the 16 week is optional)

[GotAnyBlacker]

My dogs were both done at 6-8, 12 and 16 weeks.

I didnt take either of my puppies out till 16 weeks after they had their injections although some people take them out after the 12 week injection but my vet told me 16 weeks, when the C5 was done.

I took my first girl to puppy preschool at my vets to have socialisation and even then I didnt put her down until the floor had been mopped with antibiotic wash etc. Because all kinds of dogs visit the vet and especially sick ones.

I see some idiots taking their brand new 8 week old puppies out to the dog park all the time and I feel like walking up to them and yelling at them. But of course I dont because people hear what they want to hear and do what they want to do, and sometimes they just havent been told by the 'breeder' what is the correct thing to do.

[First Time Puppy Owner]

Hi Kitkat

this is a spreadsheet my vet friend Kylie gave me as an approximation of what I need to do and when as she looks after my animals injections and pills because we live about an hour and 30 mins away from her so I know when I need to take benson out to see her.

Our recommended Preventative Health Treatments for Billy BAM Milton

BREED Australian Kelpie Cross dog

D.O.B. 07/02/2007

AGE 6 Weeks

SEX Male Neutered

COLOUR Black/Tan/White

WEIGHT 23.7 Kilograms

Age Date Needs

6 Weeks 21/03/2007 Veterinary Health Check

Vaccination C4

Microchip implantation & registration

Drontal Worming

8 Weeks 04/04/2007 Drontal Worming

Frontline treatment: give every 2 weeks for prevention of paralysis ticks or monthly for flea control

10 Weeks 18/04/2007 Drontal Worming

12 Weeks 02/05/2007 Veterinary Health Check

Vaccination C5 +/- Tetanus Vaccination if required

Proheart SR-12 Heartworm Prevention Injection

Drontal Worming

Frontline treatment

16 Weeks 30/05/2007 Veterinary Health Check

Vaccination C5 +/- Tetanus Vaccination if required

Drontal Worming

Frontline treatment

5 Months 07/07/2007 Pre-anaesthetic blood test

De-sexing

Microchip implantation & registration

Drontal Worming

Frontline treatment

6 Months 07/08/2007 Drontal Worming

Frontline treatment: continue every 2 weeks for prevention of paralysis ticks or monthly for flea control

9 Months 07/11/2007 Proheart SR-12 Heartworm Prevention Injection

Drontal Worming: continue every 3 months

15 Months 07/05/2008 Veterinary Health Check: continue every 12 months

Vaccination C5 +/- Tetanus Vaccination if required: continue every 12 months

21 Months 07/11/2008 Proheart SR-12 Heartworm Prevention Injection: continue every 12 months

Hope this helps more - also another tip not everything has to fall on the day to the minute, and my Benson loves vegemite on the chewable drontal tablets - good luck

Edited April 23, 2007 by First Time Puppy Owner

[Poodle wrangler]

There's a lot of different advice out there about vaccs. The 6 , 12, 16 week vaccinations seem to be pretty standard. Most kennels require C5. I'd give C3 if I didn't intend to use a kennel. The Protech Duramune Injection (final or yearly one) lasts for > 3 years, scroll down to see "4. Variations" at http://www.apvma.gov.au/gazette/gazette0506p12.shtml

Some on DOL prefer not to give the heartworm injection (possible adverse effects) and prefer monthly tablets. I give tablets as it includes most intestinal worms as well as heartworm. Our pup has fortnightly Drontal Allwormer, the older dog's covered with Interceptor Spectrum.

I've found Frontline ineffective for fleas in my area and use Advantix instead. Advantix also protects against mozzies & my dogs often sleep outside. Try pricelesspets.com.au for Advantix, Frontline, Heartworm tablets- they're the cheapest I've found.

About puppy classes: Young pups have little immunity and I'd not be keen to take them to a vet surgery with only one lot of vaccs. You can still socialise your pup e.g. expose them to kids, vacuum, loud noises, cars, buses, prams, other friendly vaccinated dogs etc.