Kibble And Raw Food Together

[shmoo]

Kibble and raw food are digested differently, and should NEVER be fed together, in the same meal. If you feed dry kibble at the same meal as the raw meat, you are increasing the amount of time the food is in the body, and increasing the possibility of illness from microbes.

is this true?

eta: digesting is digesting, they might take longer times to digest, but it all has to go down sometime.

i guess different meats and kibbles could mean different amount of time food is spent in the stomach....

Edited April 8, 2007 by shmoo

[New Age Outlaw]

For what it's worth I've always fed kibble and raw food together and never had a problem.

[Vehs]

Where is Steve?

I've read that too, but I figured if you were feeding good quality meat it shouldn't be an issue.

[shmoo]

ive always mixed and never had a problem either.

steeeeeeeeve!!!!

[Janba]

I've always fed rw\aw and kibble together in a 50/50 mixture and never had a problem.

I always thought the problems came from too much canned as it the same as 'predigested' and can lead to a lazy gut.

[goldielover]

I've read that comment before somewhere as well. Dogs have quite short digestive tracts compared to humans... i wonder how much difference it would make feeding kibble and raw?

[shmoo]

wow this is an awesome article... http://www.api4animals.org/facts.php?p=359&more=1

kinda off the topic, but maybe we can get some answers from here.

[espinay2]

While I personally beleive that all raw is best (and saw improvements when I switched to totally raw), for years I fed both kibble and raw together and know a number of breeders who still do. Personally I think feeding kibble and raw is at least a step in the right direction over just feeding kibble. Here is an article on mixing fresh food with kibble that may be interesting and useful for some: http://b-naturals.com/Jan2005.php

[Poodle wrangler]

Doesn't sound right to me.

Reminds me of food combining (human diet fad) where you're not meant to mix carbohydrates with proteins etc. because different enzymes involved in their digestion. Problem is both carbs and protein are present in many foods. Good in that unhealthy combos like fish and chips are avoided.

Overall healthy diet in moderation is the way to do go for dogs, too, IMHO. I've noticed a big improvement since introducing more mince, bones, rice, veg to pup's diet. Kibble there too, but less.

[shmoo]

Doesn't sound right to me.

Reminds me of food combining (human diet fad) where you're not meant to mix carbohydrates with proteins etc. because different enzymes involved in their digestion. Problem is both carbs and protein are present in many foods. Good in that unhealthy combos like fish and chips are avoided.

Overall healthy diet in moderation is the way to do go for dogs, too, IMHO. I've noticed a big improvement since introducing more mince, bones, rice, veg to pup's diet. Kibble there too, but less.

yes ive noticed my crew improve since i started feeding them mince, rice, vegies and kibble together. been doing this for a long time and not had problems.

[arby]

hey shmoo

I never had a problem with feeding both.

Only problem I can think of is certain kibble such as Eukanuba or Eagle pack are a "balanced diet" so if you feed the recommended dose of these along with meat etc you can get a fat dog.

If you feed kibble with raw you should make sure its balanced dose wise.

[SALTWOOD]

It sort of defeats the purpose though, doesn't it??

I chose to feed all natural/raw because I wanted to eliminate all the heavily processed and preserved food using ingredients of unknown origin & type from my dogs diets.

I wanted to know what they were eating and be in control - I also wanted dogs that did not have a compromised immune system caused by eating who knows what in the dry dog food.

I have been told that just recently there has been a big recall of dry petfood in the USA because of problems from ingredients sourced from China and this is major premium brands in both cats & dogs all available here.

We know that highly processed foods in our diets are not good for us - we still eat them and we generally don't die from them, but don't we all feel so much better when we eat fresh, good quality food???

That's what I want for my dogs - the best I can possibly give them for optimum health and well being!

Edited April 9, 2007 by SALTWOOD

[Mr R & NR]

My understanding it is kibble and raw meaty bones that should not be fed together, not kibble and raw meat.

RMB's do take longer to digest and kibble will inhibit that process

Kibble and raw meat ok

RMB's and kibble not advisable.

[Mr R & NR]

Saltwood, I too feed raw but he OP was asking a question about mixing kibble and raw meat. I think any step towards changing the diet to a more natural one should be encouraged. It is not always practical for people to change over completely or maybe they don't feel comfortable. Or maybe they worry what happens when they go in to a boarding kennel that will only feed kibble.

I know that my dogs get everything necessary with the raw diet I feed them but it took a long time and lots of research for me to feel totally comfortable. I just raised two puppies on raw and that was another big step for me. I would never go back but as I say it took some time to get there. Finding a vet that supports it would help but I have given up on that (this week anyway)

[New Age Outlaw]

I have been told that just recently there has been a big recall of dry petfood in the USA because of problems from ingredients sourced from China and this is major premium brands in both cats & dogs all available here.

Actually I think is was mainly canned food that was the subject of the recall, and only one type of dry catfood.

[Trisven13]

My vet tells her puppy pre-school class about a client who had a 2 year old dog. The dog was feed a premium kibble with raw mince every day and developed osteo-arthritis. It was attributed to too much phospherous and calcium or something similar???? I will ask her again tonight.

[Tibbiemax71]

The dry food and raw mince together threw the Calcium to Phosphorus ratio out of whack, there was more Phosphorus than Calcium, so the body compensated by leaching Calcium out of the dogs bones and it ended up with Osteoarthritis, I think that's what our vet said anyway

Edited April 11, 2007 by MLH

[shmoo]

The dry food and raw mince together threw the Calcium to Phosphorus ratio out or whack, there was more Phosphorus than Calcium, so the body compensated by leaching Calcium out of the dogs bones and it ended up with Osteoarthritis, I think that's what our vet said anyway :rolleyes:

that would make sense.

Just another reason to read the labels before making a dish for the doggies!!

[Akitaowner]

i feed bones and beggies in the evening and a small (even smaller now for Rogue as shes just been put on a diet ) brekkie of half a cup of good quality kibble with some tinned fish mixed in.

i like feeding barf but cant be arsed in the mornings and i prefer feeding twice a day due to bloat reasons

[peibe]

I do not feed raw and dry together as I was told it can lead to bloat problems, dry food taking longer to be absorbed

My doggies get raw meat, veges etc or fish in the mornings and a cup of dry food at night