whatevah Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Have been watching some youtube of herding instinct tests. One of them had the judge standing in the middle of the ring. Just curious where does the judge stand? The ones I was watching were probably taken outside of Australia. Was also wondering wouldn't it confuse the sheep. Here is Tia's latest efforts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJePEGnqMe4 Anybody going to this? Anyone to keep me company. LOL :rolleyes:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatevah Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 bump, anyone going? I did some training with the Aussie Shepherd club yesterday, they said she shouldn't have any problems passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 If Leo can pass i'm sure Tia will blitz! No problems at all I assure you!! She looks great in the large paddock! A true working dog I won't be going - Haven't done much with Kinta. Had a bit of a go yesterday (not with ASCV - couldn't make it) and Leo was the same as last time- not interested . He picked up again when we chucked another dog in with him and eventually was back to where he was at our first lesson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatevah Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 Where did you go yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Leo's breeder was having a play with their sheep and invited us along. I am pleased that he got back into the sheep though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesomil Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 (edited) From what i have heard, Tia will have no probs with the test at all. She is looks great. Have fun and let us know how she goes ETA Crikey, those sheep in the video are well trained. Edited May 7, 2007 by jesomil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Have been watching some youtube of herding instinct tests. One of them had the judge standing in the middle of the ring. Just curious where does the judge stand? The ones I was watching were probably taken outside of Australia. Was also wondering wouldn't it confuse the sheep. Hi CTD, I can't see you would have a problem with Tia for instinct cert. The judge is usually in the ring with you - some will stay right with you, others stand on a fence line ready to assist if needed. The couple that I have judged I have hung back on the fence out of the way unless the handlers seemed really unsure in which case I walked with them to talk them through it. And in 1 case the dog was starting to get a little excitable so I moved in off the fence ready to assist if needed but wasn't required as the handler got the dog back to them. They will usually want to see a stop (wait) and a recall first done on a long line. They shouldn't specify a sit/stand/drop just that the dog wait although I have seen some judges ask for a particular position. My opinion on this is it is herding, not obedience and a wait is sufficient. After you have demonstrated a wait and recall they will want to see the dog "show interest" in the stock and the long line will nbeed to be dropped or removed at some stage. She doesn't have to work the sheep in any way in particular just show that she wants to do so the judge will then ask you to get her back and that is that. It normally only takes a minute or so, some judges keep handlers in there longer and you have up to 10 minutes if needed as some take a little while to settle and feel relaxed enough to show interest. I had 1 that I judged took about 8 mins cos it was busy checking everything out and once it was over that showed very clear interest but it wanted to see what else was there first, lol. Good luck on the weekend and let us know how she goes. Are they doing 1 or 2 tests that day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamby Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Hi Tia will blitz the HIT Test. You'll enjoy the trial. Lots of info available, lots of dogs to see, lots of different handler ways. I wish I was coming along too but I need more training to stop Gambit from splitting the sheep. It was so good to catch up with you last Sunday. Thinking of you Wendy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi_dog Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 I will be there on the Sunday, but Indi's not ready yet so we'll just be watching one of my friends with her dog Goodluck for Saturday CTD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatevah Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 Tia shows interest from outside the pen. LOL ) If they ask for a particular position we will be stuffed. As when she gets in she is so focused, and I just do "stand" LOL ) We are doing 2 tests. Looking forward to seeing other breeds work. Saw a malinwoir work, was great!!!! Very gentle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Tia shows interest from outside the pen. LOL ) If they ask for a particular position we will be stuffed. As when she gets in she is so focused, and I just do "stand" LOL ) We are doing 2 tests. Looking forward to seeing other breeds work. Saw a malinwoir work, was great!!!! Very gentle. LOL I can understand that, I have started a young BC for a friend recently. She has lovely drops but once she gets there it is like she has never heard the word in her life so at the moment I accept a stop of movement from her and if she lays down by choice it is a bonus. I have found when working Piper though that I don't often want her to lay right down, just stop moving. The exception is if I am doing a hold like in the open pen in intermediate and advanced A, in that situation I want her dropped in the mouth of the pen. It is great seeing how the different breeds work, I haven't seen a belgian of any variety work yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooper Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 There are a couple of Belgians here in the Canberra region doing herding at the Bungendore club Have fun with the test, CTD. From what I've heard, it's a breeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superminty Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 I'll be there both days, got the pup in the herding test on Saturday and Minty is doing started A on sheep on Sunday. Neither of them have seen sheep for weeks Could be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassie Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Jules, you and Tia look great in that video. She's balancing sheep nicely to you, and paying attention to you. You look like you know what you're doing too How is she with only a few sheep, and in a smaller area. That used to be a bit of a downfall for Kirra and me - but Tia looks as though she'll cope fine with the instinct test. Best of luck - and let us know how you go. Take care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatevah Posted May 9, 2007 Author Share Posted May 9, 2007 Tia tends to want to wool class in a smaller area, but I just have to keep her moving. Actually in that video I had really no idea what I am doing, if you listen you can hear a guy yelling out instructions he wanted me to get her to herd the sheep around the pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatevah Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 We passed will put up video later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooper Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Well done -- did you have fun? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagalot Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 well done.....CTD and Tia :p see it was easy wasn't it ;) i am entered tomorrow in starters, so will be fun Cooper hasn't seen sheep for a few weeks, been to busy to take him training so should be interesting on how he goes its his first go at starters too......i am a lil nerves will let u know how we go sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Congratulations on Tia's HIC. Good luck with the next levels. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pembroke lover Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Probably a very, very silly question, but what do you do at an instinct test? :p :mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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