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My friends own a lovely boxer.

He, of course jumps on people. He jumped on me and I stuck my knee out to protect myself from his claws on my very expensive dress.

Not only I was pronounced cruel but when asked why didnt they train him not to jump at people I was told that they like him "natural".

Later that evening jumped up on the table and stolen food from the table.........

Than when they were actually feeding him him dried food dinner I asked why dont they feed natural? :confused:

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My best friend was with her father at the beach with his Labrador. She asked him why doesn't he let Princess off for a run?, and his reply was 'Labradors don't come when you call them'. My quick thinking friend said 'what about guide dogs?'. We still roll around laughing about our mental images of poor blind people with these unruly Labs. :confused:

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My best friend was with her father at the beach with his Labrador. She asked him why doesn't he let Princess off for a run?, and his reply was 'Labradors don't come when you call them'. My quick thinking friend said 'what about guide dogs?'. We still roll around laughing about our mental images of poor blind people with these unruly Labs. :confused:

:(:laugh: :cool:

Just tell the lab you have food and watch them run back to you as fast as their legs can carry them. :p

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What about people who say you cannot train tracking and herding at the same time? Or you cannot teach certain tricks because the dog will get confused during obedience etc. Have busted the trick myth with Moses. Or you can train agility and (insert dog sport) because it will confuse them. Also the myth that the dog has to have a different collar because it won't know what dog sport it is doing. When Josh and Moses see flyball jumps they know they are doing flyball, same for agility etc.

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What about show people who won't do obedience with the dog because it will stuff up their chances in the (show) ring?

This one really annoys me!

Ed sat at the end of a triangle one show (because I wasn't clear as I was nervous and I had him in heel position lol), he went on to get challenge and inter in group

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What about show people who won't do obedience with the dog because it will stuff up their chances in the (show) ring? :)

Obedience, to me is different as it would be to you.

I want a socaily accepted obediant dog.

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I am not a show person. When I have asked some show people previously about obedience they have

said Oh NO, these are show dogs we don't do obedience with them (in other words looking down on

obedience). Some think it ruins their chances in the ring, which is sad.

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I am not a show person.

Im extremly new to the show ring. And it's different i will say that.

When I have asked some show people previously about obedience they have

said Oh NO, these are show dogs we don't do obedience with them (in other words looking down on

obedience).

How do you know they were looking down on it, you assumed that.

I don't do ring/sport obedience, Yet i do social/public/household obedience.

That means, no jumping on people, sitting when asked, waiting to eat before snatching it, no taking food out of peoples hands etc

Some think it ruins their chances in the ring, which is sad.

It it can, if something is performed at the wrong time.

But not always.

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I don't do ring/sport obedience, Yet i do social/public/household obedience.

That means, no jumping on people, sitting when asked, waiting to eat before snatching it, no taking food out of peoples hands etc

LOL - here I am with my obedience dogs that jump on people :):thumbsup: but that is only cos I haven't really trained them otherwise - they would never do any of the other things you say (table manners)... but I just had to giggle to myself :thumbsup:

Some think it ruins their chances in the ring, which is sad.

It it can, if something is performed at the wrong time.

But not always.

I agree with Chezzyr - Like you Sway - i'm new to the ring - BOTH of my dogs probably do more obedience than showing and both realise (Leo has only been in the show ring about 3 times) the difference - neither have tried to sit when I stack them or deliberately break gait (only when I have run too fast - as I said - newbie :thumbsup:). So I don't think obedience affects their showing standards......

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I don't do ring/sport obedience, Yet i do social/public/household obedience.

That means, no jumping on people, sitting when asked, waiting to eat before snatching it, no taking food out of peoples hands etc

LOL - here I am with my obedience dogs that jump on people :thumbsup::thumbsup: but that is only cos I haven't really trained them otherwise - they would never do any of the other things you say (table manners)... but I just had to giggle to myself :thumbsup:

Some think it ruins their chances in the ring, which is sad.

It it can, if something is performed at the wrong time.

But not always.

I agree with Chezzyr - Like you Sway - i'm new to the ring - BOTH of my dogs probably do more obedience than showing and both realise (Leo has only been in the show ring about 3 times) the difference - neither have tried to sit when I stack them or deliberately break gait (only when I have run too fast - as I said - newbie :)). So I don't think obedience affects their showing standards......

Table manners and jumping are my pet peeves.

Sway will lunge/jump to get up to your chest to say hello when excited,

I hate it, i have to have a really short lead and pull he back down.

We have been working on it for a few weeks now, she is getting better.

The part i find the hardest, is getting people to ignore her so she can learn it's not acceptable.

Table manners around kids is a big fear of mine, dogs who don't have manners can easily take a childs finger when it snatches food.

Showing standard is different to ability to be shown.

Look at Eddie he sat on the way back from his up and back, obedience dog.

Sway up and back will stand.

She has never been taught to sit when we stop, unless given the command to do so.

She will sit though if asked.

Many obedience dogs will sit when there handler stops, in the show ring you can't have that.

That is the biggest thing i notice.

I als see agility dogs, think it's great to jump onto the table :)

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Showing standard is different to ability to be shown.

Look at Eddie he sat on the way back from his up and back, obedience dog.

Sway up and back will stand.

She has never been taught to sit when we stop, unless given the command to do so.

She will sit though if asked.

Many obedience dogs will sit when there handler stops, in the show ring you can't have that.

That is the biggest thing i notice.

I als see agility dogs, think it's great to jump onto the table :)

I would have put Eddie's mistake down to Bel's nerves and not a blanket thing. Kinta and Leo both sit automatically when I stop - when both in the show ring, they will stand - usually I will tell them to 'stand' at the end of a gait - their 'gait' insn't affected by heeling - it's a different command, and i've never had a problem with them sitting on the back. It's all about the way you handle - my body language for herding/obedience/agility/showing is completely different - and the dogs respond to that :thumbsup:

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