Tacoheki Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 What are peoples opinion on putting a bark collar on a 6 month old puppy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaY Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Nope. There a puppy, and i don't think all avenues could have been exhausted by that age. 6 months they still need reassurance, they get scared, there trying things out, seeing how far they can push you etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purpley Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 OMG no way, not that young. You need to be working on more positive things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 What are peoples opinion on putting a bark collar on a 6 month old puppy? That it shouldnt be done before exhausting other options like increasing the pup's mental and physical stimulation. Bark collars aren't wildly effective on many dogs and deter behaviour, rather than preventing it. What is the pup's story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacoheki Posted March 9, 2007 Author Share Posted March 9, 2007 Friend of mine's 6 month old JRT puppy, happy healthy dog, very well stimulated and socialised. However he will sit in the back yard and bark for no apparent reason for hours. Have tried verbal discipline, squirting with a spray of water, time out, ignoring it etc, but nothing has made any difference. Friend is getting desperate as her neighbours are complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Would have to be an absolute last resort. I would be asking what training the dog has, mental stimulation available, the dogs routine, when it is barking- constant or only at certain times? Bark collars are a last resort for problematic barking that occurs when you are not home in most cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 (edited) Friend of mine's 6 month old JRT puppy, happy healthy dog, very well stimulated and socialised. However he will sit in the back yard and bark for no apparent reason for hours. Have tried verbal discipline, squirting with a spray of water, time out, ignoring it etc, but nothing has made any difference. Friend is getting desperate as her neighbours are complaining. Is the dog allowed inside? What does your friend consider to be "well stimulated and socialised"? What does that involve. Edited March 9, 2007 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weisnjac Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 One of my JRT's does this. He sits and barks for no reason except just for being bored. I find if I don't change toys often enough or give enough exercise he just finds way's to entertain him self. He is not the most confident dog and as such I would never consider putting an anti-barking collar on him. Nor would I a 6 month old puppy. Are they doing obedience training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weisnjac Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 [What does your friend consider to be "well stimulated and socialised"? What does that involve. I was also going to ask this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyWild Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Avoid the collar for the time being. Questions to find out further - Does the dog bark like this if they are outside with it? Does the barking start when they leave the dog to go inside, or the dog can see them get home, etc? What times of the day does this tend to occur? Are there neighbours or some other thing that you can't hear that the dog maybe barking at? (eg when the barking starts go out and really concentrate on anything that could be starting the barking) Have they tried using a positive interuptor to distract the dog from the barking situation and then focus on rewarding for increasing periods of silence? Do they go out the dog a lot when it's behaving well in the back yard, or more so when the barking occurs? As mentioned before - what is their definition of "well socialised and stimulated" - need specifics? etc They could do with getting someone to assess the situation if they are about to resort to a bark collar on a 6month old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I have a lot of reservations about putting a bark collar on any dog, but on a 6mth old pup, I don't think that all avenues have been exhausted as others have stated. I would only use a bark collar in extreme cases as I dont' want the dog to believe that it can't bark....... one day may come along where it would be useful for the dog to bark. I may be wrong though...... Provide more stimulation and see if you can find out exactly what the dog is barking at. The only time the dog would be barking at nothing is when they are bored, otherwise there is always something that they are barking at JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swain Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I just bought a bark collar for my 12month old pom. Used to be dead against them but we were desperate as we are out at work all day. When he has it on (not very often now) not a peep out of him. He does press his luck when he doesn't have it on though. It doesn't replace good obedience training but it might eleviate a bit of the stress. As for putting it on a dog of 6months old...........depends how desperate they are if it's a choice between that and getting rid of the dog..... Also when my little man first had it on he did a total of 1 1/2 barks. That was it. He soon new that this big thing around his neck could get quite unconfortable if he barked. Not the nicest of options but if desperate....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 (edited) It depends what's at stake....are there council complaints etc? There are certain types of bark collars that may be more suitable such as JetAir. I can't see why the dog would be sitting barking at nothing unless he is absolutely bored out of his mind. To someone in your friends position I would reccomend, they take the dog for a walk prior to heading out, provide a bone, sand pit, padling pool, kong, scatter kibble in the backyard, leave a radio on, see if they can find someone to visit the dog in the middle of the day and walk the dog. Plenty of options before popping on a bark collar. Edited March 9, 2007 by sas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I have a lot of reservations about putting a bark collar on any dog, but on a 6mth old pup, I don't think that all avenues have been exhausted as others have stated. I would only use a bark collar in extreme cases as I dont' want the dog to believe that it can't bark....... one day may come along where it would be useful for the dog to bark. I may be wrong though...... Provide more stimulation and see if you can find out exactly what the dog is barking at. The only time the dog would be barking at nothing is when they are bored, otherwise there is always something that they are barking at JMHO I don't think even Static-Pulse collars stop dogs barking when they don't have the collar on. The dog knows when the collar is on, that's why they have mock collars as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I don't think even Static-Pulse collars stop dogs barking when they don't have the collar on. The dog knows when the collar is on, that's why they have mock collars as well. There is some truth of possibility in this ..... but provided you are careful about when the collar goes on and when the collar comes off it can in some cases prove to weaken the behaviour (of course, the "cause" needs to have been removed as well) and sometimes replaced by other more desireable behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacoheki Posted March 9, 2007 Author Share Posted March 9, 2007 My friend has two kids, and is home 99% of the time. The kids and my friend are in and out of the house playing with the dogs almost all day. He is taken for short walks several times a day, has plenty of toys and bones. A paddling pool isnt an option because of the young kids. The dog seems to bark most in the evenings, almost continually. He is allowed inside when the kids are in bed. My friend bought a husher this evening to try and deter the behaviour. She has also tried praising when he is quiet, but he tends to start barking again when she turns to walk away. There are other dogs in the neighbourhood which bark, and also a playground next door, so she expects him to bark, but its the evening when its the most problematic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Phoenix, what happened to your other question about your dog that wouldn't come to you? I can't find it any more but it was up there yesterday. Is it taken off or am I going senile and cant see it (highly possible LOL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidoney Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Arya, that would be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seita Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 You could probably use one the jet air spray type collars - works the same way but a bit 'nicer' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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