HuntinHound Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 In the puppy class that I went to, there are puppies that are only 6 - 7 weeks old, and of course they are not puppies from registered breeders. :rolleyes: I am but speechless and sitting here shaking my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arawnhaus Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 6 - 7 weeks old? Don't think it matters where they came from, the vet runs the classes from after first vaccine, so they are perfectly allowed to be there according to the vet, I don't agree with that at all either HH.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 6 - 7 weeks old? Don't think it matters where they came from, the vet runs the classes from after first vaccine, so they are perfectly allowed to be there according to the vet, I don't agree with that at all either HH.......... just bring your money with you....... sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 (edited) . Edited June 6, 2009 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 6-7 weeks would not be common practice. Eight weeks is the minimum age for every pre-school that I know of. I don;t see anything worng with taking an 8 week old puppy, to a well run pre-school for socialisation and some learning, for both the puppy and the owner. Some of the people attending ours had never owned a puppy and they were thankful for the help that they got, it was help that the petshops and the BYB's were not capable of providing nor did they want to. It's very disturbing to see first time owners with dominant puppies and puppies with issue that are 10 weeks old. It takes a matter of days to form nasty little habits and it can be a long process to break them. And Dougie, we talked about diet in general, what is considered safe to feed your puppies, things that you should never feed a dog. We did not recommend any particular brand, nor did we hand out any food samples, other than training treats that we did not sell in the clinic. It's not always about forcing products onto new puppy owners. I don't think anyone could complain about being given a worm tablet and being shown how to worm your puppy. If you and your puppy can learn a little from pre-school and you feel more confident in training your puppy and dealing with issues like house training and biting, then what is the harm ? Has anyone ever come across a puppy that contracted parvo from a pre-school. I know of over 1000 that have attended and not one sick puppy amongst them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 And Dougie, we talked about diet in general, what is considered safe to feed your puppies, things that you should never feed a dog. We did not recommend any particular brand, nor did we hand out any food samples, other than training treats that we did not sell in the clinic. It's not always about forcing products onto new puppy owners. I don't think anyone could complain about being given a worm tablet and being shown how to worm your puppy. If you and your puppy can learn a little from pre-school and you feel more confident in training your puppy and dealing with issues like house training and biting, then what is the harm ? Has anyone ever come across a puppy that contracted parvo from a pre-school. I know of over 1000 that have attended and not one sick puppy amongst them. i do all that before a puppy leaves my place..... i give the new owner kibble & kangaroo mince & list of additives to include on a regular basis.....including sardines, fishoil tabs cheese etc, hard boiled eggs left over pasta etcetc. i also make an exaggerated show of worming thier puppy before they take it......1/4 of a tab down the throat, close the mouth, rub the neck until swallowed.....they see it done & realise how easy it is......every month to six weeks...without fail i also show the new owners how to trim toe nails. & i tell them, under no cercumstances are they to take not MY puppy where other dogs frequent until they have their 12 week booster shots. they leave with my telephone numbers & entreaty to ring me....anytime......most do....for the first couple of months with little things they aren't sure off......after that it is pics on web of gorgeous healthy little tanker dogs....gotta love 'em. pre puppy school,,,,,,,,bah humbug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toohey Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 The floor was not washed before the puppy classes started and the classes were held in the waiting room :rolleyes: The scales at my vet clinic are always dirty and covered in dog hair. I asked the receptionist once how often they were cleaned and she said ummed and ahhed and said she didn't know. I take my own spray bottle of disinfectant and a rag and wipe them down and dispose of the rag whenever I go there now. Just last week I had to let the staff know there was blood drops all over the floor near the seats where we supposed to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 The scales at my vet clinic are always dirty and covered in dog hair. I asked the receptionist once how often they were cleaned and she said ummed and ahhed and said she didn't know.I take my own spray bottle of disinfectant and a rag and wipe them down and dispose of the rag whenever I go there now. Just last week I had to let the staff know there was blood drops all over the floor near the seats where we supposed to wait. Well that isn't good enough, I spend half the day with a mop in my hand! :rolleyes: Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 (edited) . Edited June 6, 2009 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMiffy Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 (edited) I hope Faith's surgery went ok, regardless of the poops Edited January 12, 2007 by MissMiffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Why on earth would you go to a clinic that was not clean and sterile- for anything, let alone puppy pre school? One of the puppy schools we run is at my own vet and i have no problem with the cleanliness of the place. And because i run it, nothing gets pushed in terms of vet products at all. Sure i talk about interactive toys and some people will buy a kong- what a terrible thing that is! And Dougie, just because you explain all of those things to your puppy buyers- what about others that do not? We can't tell people to go back to a 'breeder' or pet shop to get the information when many couldn't care less once they've been paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toohey Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Why on earth would you go to a clinic that was not clean and sterile- for anything, let alone puppy pre school? because sometimes you don't have a choice. I have tried two other clinics in my area and there were similiar problems. Luckily, I have a breed that I can carry in and nurse, and I always make sure the vet's table is cleaned before I put a dog on it. You cannot sterilise a waiting room, you can only try to disinfect as best as possible, and if the staff actually did that I would not be so concerned.. but when you can actually see the bugs/bacteria it makes you worried about what you cannot see. Moreso with me, as my background is operating room nursing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arawnhaus Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 (edited) CavnRott, What a horrible experience,going to the vet for surgery and having to be careful of other dogs mess like that, absolutely not good enough IMO, when we humans go to the doctor,we are not expected to put up with that lack of consideration/hygiene. I hope all went well for your faith . I must say I have never done pup preschool, from what I've heard of it ,It's geared up for extreme novice dog owner's and the last thing I want to hear about is how to raise dogs from people who have only read about it in books Not saying all are this way...... My vet gives the Eukanuba sermon too :D Not to mention the "free" sample. Sometimes there is no choice but to use a clinic,less then desirable........ If a dog caught parvo from a vet clinic, I doubt they would divulge such info. Edited January 13, 2007 by Delkerabo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 little puppies are still babies at 12 weeks...... there must be some sorry owners out there if their puppies need to be socialised at 8 weeks..... good grief....i would say they are novice owners being conned by a money grubbing minority. any one who really wants their puppies socialised & to receive basic training at the same time should contact their local obedience club. people who do the business for the love of it.......& know what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 (edited) . Edited June 6, 2009 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Sterile was the wrong word choice- but i think you understand what i mean so no need for the rolled eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirty Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Dougie, when I was 16 a woman came into my work (I worked at a stables), handed me a puppy and left. The puppy was about 6 weeks old and a Heeler/Kelpie/BC mix and she came from a farm. At 6 weeks old, she was terrified of everything. Other dogs, cats, cars, new people - everything. If a strange dog or person came too close, she would snap. This was a 6 week old (if that) puppy who weighed less than 1kg! We took her to a great puppy-preschool which helped a little, but it took about 12 months of training at a training centre who specialised in dealing with dogs with 'issues' for her to come good. She is now 5.5yrs old and is the best dog you could ever hope for. She is 100% trustworthy with cats, other dogs and puppies, livestock and anyone who I let into my house. We do agility and obedience and she is just the best dog! We don't know what happened to her in those 6 short weeks before she came to us, and we never will - but there are lots of messed up puppies out there. My dog was just lucky that we persisted - I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 (edited) Kirty: We don't know what happened to her in those 6 short weeks before she came to us, and we never will - but there are lots of messed up puppies out there. My dog was just lucky that we persisted - I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't have. Probably nothing. Dogs can be born with temperaments like that. It was probably the first time the pup had been anywhere other than with it's Mum and littermates. Edited January 17, 2007 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 the poor little puppy was terrified for cr'is sake. it wasn't the puppy pre school.....(what a scammy name that is for a start)....that did the business....it was the confidence the puppy gained at ''home''. the pet ''business'' is a huge business......scammers are in for their cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chloes Dad Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Hi Uforia, Chloe cant wait to see molly at puppy pre school , and rest assured I think our trainer is the best! and our vet clinic is very reputable. Unfortunately everyone has opinions and you are bound to get different ones. I hope you don't feel too bullied by a certain know it all... know nothing... assume everything... Chloe is quite apprehensive for the first ten minutes while the staffy and the pointer are bursting out of their skin! maybe they can snuggle in the corner together. The fact that you are taking your puppy to pre school and joining forums like this shows that you are great pet owner. im very sorry that long standing members have suggested the contrary, shame on them See u next wed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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