mollynme Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 Not sure but my pup was vaccinated at 6 weeks for C3 and then at 10 weeks with Nobivac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Myschafis~ Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 So your got only Two vaccinations? Is it just me or should there be three vaccincations, mine have go them at 6,10,12-16(one of the other) weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollynme Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 (edited) Yep only 2, that's what's different about Nobivac, it's just as effective as the old one but instead of needing 3 vaccinations the pup only needs 2 and is given at 10 weeks rather than 12-16. ETA: then just like the old one you also have the annual boosters Edited January 11, 2007 by uforia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Myschafis~ Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 What is in the makes it OK, to not have another Vac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwo2 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I took my pup at 12 weeks, after 2nd vaccination, which is normal C5. The vet took me the vaccination take effect immediately, no need to wait for 7 days. Can I ask a question if that's the normal vaccination type 1st vaccination C4 2nd vaccination C5 3rd vaccination C3 What I used to do and what I also do now is, whenever I can foresee that the pup will be going to a place where a lot of dogs have been to, I bath her on that day. e.g. bath her after puppy class. I am not sure if it actually help in any way, but that's what I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Myschafis~ Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 In my case it was.. 1st - C3 2nd - C4 3rd - c5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 So your got only Two vaccinations?Is it just me or should there be three vaccincations, mine have go them at 6,10,12-16(one of the other) weeks? There is no need for a third vacc, the vets like the third as it's $$$$ in the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Myschafis~ Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 damn stoopid vets taking advantage of my ignorance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arawnhaus Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I was quite surprised to be told by a vet this morning,that their preschool started from as soon as pup had it's first immunisation,I would think from 12 weeks old should be the begining,but I was informed my new 13 week old baby is most certainly too old..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 We ran them from 8 weeks of age, which is the most common age for pre-school to start. I used to attend another clinics class, on the final night and talk about grooming, they too started at 8 weeks. On the final night before I moved they were upto their 115th class and that was nearly two years ago. That's over 900 puppies and no illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Just out of curiousity Uforia, do both you and your OH take your puppy to the training class? Thanks SkyesongTollrz, your advice made perfect sense and yes we both take her puppy training class. We had the 2nd class last night and i am happy to report that for *most* of the lesson she was much better. Happily sniffing the other pups and generally curious about them. When training she was very focused on me and didn't let the others deter her. I did notice though that she tended to stick to the pups more around her size which is good as she probably feels less threatend by them and that she doesn't like tails wagging in her face Dougie - probably best you steer away from the training forums, it's not your forte. anyone who advises anyone to ''get your puppy out & about to socialise it'' before it has had it's second round of vaccs is a moron. Passing judgement before you even know the facts. People like you bring a good place like this down. Instead of offering constructive advice i have offered the best advice any puppy owner can get. ask yourself why dog training schools insist on up to date vacc certificates. contrary advice from ''one puppy wonders'' really doesn't carry much cred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 What do you consider to be a 'one puppy wonder' Dougie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollynme Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 contrary advice from ''one puppy wonders'' really doesn't carry much cred. And how do you know i am a one puppy wonder? There you go again, making assumptions before researching your facts. I felt bad that i stooped to your level earlier on calling you a moron but now i'm totally convinced that you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arawnhaus Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 (edited) Should you wish to board a dog, first thing they ask is if you have a fully immunised dog,they require proof of this too............. It only takes one puppy to die,but I guess one is not enough to take note........... Taking a 6-8 week old to a vet IMO is for immunisation only, imagine that, puppy classes, what a great way to plug their products and of course the sponser's food.............. Edited January 11, 2007 by Delkerabo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Dougie - probably best you steer away from the training forums, it's not your forte. this is the puppy forum....i know puppies.....puppies are my forte. Yes yes Dougie, but you can't actually provide any concrete evidence that you *do* know what you're talking about. if your ''trainer'' is so damn good he/she will have no trouble socialising a puppy AFTER it has its full course of vaccinations.....if they can't...........get a ''real'' trainer.......too easy. ''real'' training schools wont accept any dog without a current vaccs certificate & puppies must be a minimum of 3 months....with an appropriate vaccs cert.....go figure? Hogwash, get with the program Dougie, alot of those 'real' schools are now offering puppy classes themselves. The critical socialisation period for pups is usually well finished by 18 weeks, which is the age most pups will be after their full course of vaccinations. I will take a younger pup into my pre-school if it is about due for it's 2nd Vacc, particularly when all the others have had a 2nd Vacc, because by the time I begin a new group it will be too old. You don't actually take classes and wouldn't have the faintest idea so I'll enlighten you: Puppy owners will go to a pre-school that's convenient, if I don't take them, and refer them onto another 'real' trainer...they may not go, based on the fact that it's 15 more minutes travel on a weeknight. They particularly don't want to go elsewhere, when they've been specifically referred to me by the local obedience club, by one of the several councils that refer or some of the Vet Clinics in the area. I would much rather take a younger pup into a class THAN IT NEVER TO GO TO A CLASS AT ALL, because that's what happens on a very regular basis. You're in Staffies which are a highly adaptable breed, love people and are generally outgoing, and you probably do a lot of socialisation at home before they go, but the crappy breeders are unfortunately still the majority. I'd much rather take a younger pup into the group than see it at 5-6mths a f**ked up mess because the owners wouldn't take it out for socialisation, you can't undo a pup at six months like you can a pup who is only 10-12 weeks and showing the same behaviours. Makes my life - and the real trainers I refer to later on- much much easier. Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Dougie - probably best you steer away from the training forums, it's not your forte. this is the puppy forum....i know puppies.....puppies are my forte. Yes yes Dougie, but you can't actually provide any concrete evidence that you *do* know what you're talking about. if your ''trainer'' is so damn good he/she will have no trouble socialising a puppy AFTER it has its full course of vaccinations.....if they can't...........get a ''real'' trainer.......too easy. ''real'' training schools wont accept any dog without a current vaccs certificate & puppies must be a minimum of 3 months....with an appropriate vaccs cert.....go figure? Hogwash, get with the program Dougie, alot of those 'real' schools are now offering puppy classes themselves. The critical socialisation period for pups is usually well finished by 18 weeks, which is the age most pups will be after their full course of vaccinations. I will take a younger pup into my pre-school if it is about due for it's 2nd Vacc, particularly when all the others have had a 2nd Vacc, because by the time I begin a new group it will be too old. You don't actually take classes and wouldn't have the faintest idea so I'll enlighten you: Puppy owners will go to a pre-school that's convenient, if I don't take them, and refer them onto another 'real' trainer...they may not go, based on the fact that it's 15 more minutes travel on a weeknight. They particularly don't want to go elsewhere, when they've been specifically referred to me by the local obedience club, by one of the several councils that refer or some of the Vet Clinics in the area. I would much rather take a younger pup into a class THAN IT NEVER TO GO TO A CLASS AT ALL, because that's what happens on a very regular basis. You're in Staffies which are a highly adaptable breed, love people and are generally outgoing, and you probably do a lot of socialisation at home before they go, but the crappy breeders are unfortunately still the majority. I'd much rather take a younger pup into the group than see it at 5-6mths a f**ked up mess because the owners wouldn't take it out for socialisation, you can't undo a pup at six months like you can a pup who is only 10-12 weeks and showing the same behaviours. Makes my life - and the real trainers I refer to later on- much much easier. Mel. self praise is no recommendation. here we have people with nothing to gain...monetarily......& people that do....... make up your own mind folks. Makes my life - and the real trainers I refer to later on- much much easier. i am yet to see a screwed up 10-12 week old puppy anyhow. there is nothing to unsrcew.....it's a sinecure...... talk about pet store rip offs....this is another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Dougie- if you have never seen a 10- 12 week old pup with issues, clearly you haven't seen enough puppies! I question your experience with dogs of different ages AND breeds. And you fail to answer both questions i have asked in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 why anyone would want to rush their puppy out & about before their second vaccs has kicked in is beyond me.....they are still puppies at 14 to 40+ weeks......they are not going to turn into slavering beasts because they are not ''socialised'' at 6 weeks. a normal family environment, vaccs at 12 weeks....puppy out & about a couple or 7 days after that.....no wuckers. only dodgy trainers would advocate ''socialisation'' any earlier than the second round of vaccinations. The main time in a puppies development for socialisation is about 7 -12 to 14 weeks. This is the time in their development that they are most receptive to forming bonds with people and other animals. If they learn in this period that people and other dogs are a 'good' thing it usually stays with them for the rest of their life. Other dogs are also most tolerant of puppies at this stage and allow them to do things without retaliation that they would never allopw from an older puppy. They also learn a lot of their social skills during this period. It is also the period when pups learn the quickest. With the bad BYB and puppy farm puppies who have not had the start in life that a pup from a good breeder has had this is even more important. At about 4-5 months this changes as the pup goes through hormonal development and other dogs start to react to a puppy the same way they would an older dog. i am yet to see a screwed up 10-12 week old puppy anyhow.there is nothing to unsrcew.....it's a sinecure...... talk about pet store rip offs....this is another one. I have. It was a cattle dog and the people had been told to grab it by the head and shake it when it misbehaved or mouthed. By the time the pup came to training at 14 weeks it had serious aggression problems and was euthenased not long after. If had done puppy preschool from an early age this problem may not have eventuated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 What do you consider to be a 'one puppy wonder' Dougie? i would have thought that was self explanitory. Dougie- if you have never seen a 10- 12 week old pup with issues, clearly you haven't seen enough puppies! I question your experience with dogs of different ages AND breeds. .......yeah, right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwo2 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 In the puppy class that I went to, there are puppies that are only 6 - 7 weeks old, and of course they are not puppies from registered breeders. It is a puppy class in a vet clinic. The other one I went to is at Castle Hill showground and that's only allow you to take pup once they have the 2nd vaccination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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