happy.grl Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 We've had our puppy for 2 weeks now. He knows sit, lets us know when he wants to go outside to do his business and will follow a target stick, which we are using to shape down at the moment. He does not look at us often, unless we have treats, food or toys in our hands, and even then he seems to look at our hands more than our eyes. He also nips a lot - NO does not really seem to register most of the time, and we have found ourselves giving him a time out in his crate when he gets in a nippy mood (this seems to happen mostly when he is tired, as when we put him in his crate he is normally asleep within 5 minutes) I am worried about using his crate for this purpose, although we do not put him there as a punishment, and always speak gently to him when we do this - could we be giving him negative associations with his crate? My question is - how much would you expect a 9 week old puppy to have learnt in this time? We normally do 10-15 very short (30 secs-1mins) sessions with him per day, we are using clicker training ATM. any suggestions on what we could be doing with im is appreciated. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 what do you want to ultimately do with this pup? I wouldnt want to bother too much. In the first couple of weeks I would look more at bonding with the pup then 10 training sessions a day. just do basic obedience when he needs it (like food times etc) and the rest have fun. If mine nipped I grabbed the pup by the scruff and growled NO at it. Got the idea quickly and the habit was broken, Time Out is good for when the dog is in a hyper spaz mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy.grl Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 At this stage the pup is just going to be a pet, although I would love to be able to do agility with him - the way he runs around, and under the couch and over the footrests in the backyard when he is being a spaz indicates that he would love it. I have grabbed the dog and growled no, also have tried ignoring and turning my back and have also tried leaving the room for 5 minutes but nothing is working. We have puppy school tomorrow so I hope that they will be able to give some hints for me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 what breed do you have btw? even if you dont hammer obedience into him now doesnt mean you cant do agility. As a pup I wouldnt be pushing agility because the exercise should be limited up to 12 months, no jumping etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy.grl Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 I have a japanese spitz. He's adorable when he goes nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 heheheheeh they are aren't they!!! Very smart little cookie but needs some more time to get used to his home and new family so take it nice and slow, keep training times fun and he will be wrapped around your finger although usually you end up wrapped around their little paw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Ooh can we see pics My manager breeds Jap Spitzes - cheeky little buggers Go slow and work on socialistaion, basic obedience and foundation work. While you can't do much equipment work as he is just a baby, there is some foundation work for later agility you can do. That is what I am doing with my Kelpie at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arby Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 it seems that your pup is already ahead of alot of dogs that i knew!!! patience is the key. Take things slowly. Also if NO doesnt work try the "AH AH" sound instead. I know some dogs that totally ignore the no command but are really good with other sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy.grl Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Hi Kavic, here's some pics:- Akira at 7 weeks A bit more recent Cheeky is definately the word for him - at least one of the words. Arby - thanks, we are using the AH-AH sounds as more of a discouragement when he is about to, or has just started to do something innapropriate, and we are leaving no for the more serious. I've thrown in a few Oi's as well...... can only keep trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwo2 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 My Bichon pup also nips a lot. She likes to bite into my pants and then pull me back. I have been told by a trainer that I should turn away from her and just stand there and ignore, make sure you don't give any eye contact. Saying NO or AHAH or having eye contact, will mean giving attention, which is a kind of a reward. I usually ignore her now, but sometimes, when she actually nips or bites at my ankle, it really hurts, I will scream and grab her at the scuff and growl. At 9 weeks, my Bichon only know SIT and WAIT. Now, at 17 weeks, she knows SIT, DROP, WAIT, HAND (giving out her hand to me), stand on its hind legs and do a little dance for a few seconds. I bought those ring which people use for fitness, and she learn to jump through the ring. I am trying to teach her to give me her left and right hand on command, but she just won't get it, she can't tell what is left or right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Very cute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helen Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 You may have more success doing something like this - http://www.paw-rescue.org/PAW/PETTIPS/DogT...eInhibition.php http://www.clickersolutions.com/articles/spt/SPT_Puppies.htm Attention: http://www.canismajor.com/dog/clk9904.html http://www.clickersolutions.com/articles/2001b/attention.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy.grl Posted January 6, 2007 Author Share Posted January 6, 2007 Thanks Helen, those articles are a good read. We are doing *most* of what is there - I think my main problem is patience, or rather, lack of patience. My OH keeps reminding me that Akira is just a baby and does not know what we want him to do - we just need to keep the training going and he will eventually get it and then I'll be all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belijae Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Just another technique - if you yelp like a pup this can indicate to your little one that they are being too ruff and then ignore them. This is how litter mates will communicate that he is bitting too hard - the yelp bit that is. Maybe give it a try. That is one little cutie by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy.grl Posted January 6, 2007 Author Share Posted January 6, 2007 Just another technique - if you yelp like a pup this can indicate to your little one that they are being too ruff and then ignore them. This is how litter mates will communicate that he is bitting too hard - the yelp bit that is. Maybe give it a try.That is one little cutie by the way. Hi Belijae - I have tried the yelping, sometimes though, it makes him more rough - I think it's when he is getting really tired. He rarely will go to sleep unless I physically put him in his crate. When it seems like he is tired I'll put him in and he'll zonk out. When he is not tired he has a pretty soft mouth, sometimes. It's getting better now that we are not discouraging the mouthing as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 I personaly think you're expecting too much from a 9 week old puppy. I would be more working on bonding with the puppy and ensuring the leadership program is going well before starting training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunsafun Boxers Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 You mentioned that the pup watches your hands. Have you had his hearing tested? I had a puppy do this a lot and didn't seem to respond well to my voice when being corrected etc. i got him tested and we found that at 10 weeks old he was stone deaf. might we worth a look, otherwise im in agreement with the other members, i'd take it at his pace, let him be a puppy, teach him the basics. Good luck regards Jenna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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