bel Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 (edited) Just wanted to know whats involved? I have trained one of my dogs to CD (novice) level , but was unable to get any passes with him. This was over 4 years ago. I then got envolved in comformation shows, which I do most weekends and gave up with training/trialing him. I was looking at taking him back to training and got to thinking about the new classes and thought I would have a go at trialing him again. From what I've read it is less work for the dog. Any help or comments would be appriciated regards Bel Edited March 16, 2007 by bel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsdog2 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Just wanted to know whats involved? I have trained one of my dogs to CD (novice) level , but was unable to get any passes with him. This was over 4 years ago. I then got envolved in comformation shows, which I do most weekends and gave up with training/trialing him. I was looking at taking him back to training and got to thinking about the new classes and thought I would have a go at trialing him again. From what I've read it is less work for the dog. Any help or comments would be appriciated regards Bel If you've trialed in Novice but your dogs don't have any passes you can enter a CCD trial. Having already trialed in Novice you'll find CCD a lot easier. Your heal pattern is normal, fast and slow pace - all on lead - with the usual halt, stand and drop commands and turns (right, left etc). Stand for exam is on lead and you still have the recall, but at a shorter distance. You still have groups - 1 minute sit, 2 minute drop. You don't have to have a pass in Sweepstakes to enter and a qualifying score is 75 points out of 100. Sorry I don't have my book on me to give you specifics but I know Canine Control Council of Qld have it on their web site, so you could try the Canine Control Council in your state. My advice would be to go and watch a trial so you can see for yourself what's involved. CCD seems to be very popular and it's a good way to ease yourself back into the Obedience ring. Good luck with your trialing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdude Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Hi Bel What breed is your dog? What do you think was holding you back from a pass previously? If he has done most of the work already, then why not train him through to UD before you start to trial him? Its pretty dam depressing and money consuming when you continually enter trials and fail. He will have more maturity on his side now, but IMO you need to be very patient if you want a successful trialling dog. Not much point travelling around half the state on a wing and a prayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatevah Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Here is a clip of my dog competing in CCD, it will give you an idea of whats involved. You are only in the ring for about 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsdog2 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Here is a clip of my dog competing in CCD, it will give you an idea of whats involved. You are only in the ring for about 5 minutes. :D I loved the way he never took his eyes off you. What was your score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatevah Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 I think we got in 90's, but it was our first trial and we won!!!!!!!!! We should also be in Vicdogs mag next month so watch out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsdog2 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 "you won" :D How good is that!! Do you mean "your" first trial as well? From what I could see he never missed a command and that's probably because he watched you the whole time. Good on you, especially because the conditions look lousy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatevah Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Yep it was our very first VCA trial. He had only done two club trials previous to that which have different rules. He is not perfect though, he does lots of puppy sits. It was raining that day, I took my coat off prior to going in and had to ring out the lead and convince him that it was okay to drop in the wet. At the VCA trial he is looking at me at the end as if to say "where's my food". LOL I have one of him doing Novice and Kintala comp, at my youtube site and my webpage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsdog2 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Yep it was our very first VCA trial. He had only done two club trials previous to that which have different rules. He is not perfect though, he does lots of puppy sits. It was raining that day, I took my coat off prior to going in and had to ring out the lead and convince him that it was okay to drop in the wet. At the VCA trial he is looking at me at the end as if to say "where's my food". LOL I have one of him doing Novice and Kintala comp, at my youtube site and my webpage. Love the one of him opening and closing the draw . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Bel, i have a copy of the rules for all the trial levels in Vic if you want me to email them to you, just pm me your email I'm hoping to start Eddie in CCD this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Good luck and go for it!!! CCD ring work is not too challenging and you're only in there for a short time. Here are the requirements from the blue ANKC book: Heel on lead - 30pts, Stand for exam on lead - 10 pts, Recall - 20pts, 1 min sit stay - 20 pts, 2 min down stay 20 pts. Total 100 75 to pass. There is a figure 8 in the heel on lead with at least one halt and from what I have seen, this is often where the heeling falters in CCD. I am trialling Novice but have watched CCD quite a bit. My advice would be to make sure your stays are rock solid in this class as some dogs are not really ready to trial and go in it, so tend to take off. At the last trial I was at my knees were wobbling as dogs were running off in CCD while we were doing stays in Novice beside them. What a distraction! I hoped my dog wasnt' going to join them but she didn't, phew :D So proof your stays around running dogs LOL. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bel Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 Thanks for the replys. The dog in question is now 10 years old and he is a cross bred terrier. Pugsly always managed to fail an exercise in novice and he hated the fact you had to do 2 healling paterns. He is a very stable dog with his stays, never put a foot rong in the stand for exam or stand stay, by the time I gave up obedience with him he was doing open and ud stays. He cant compete in open or ud as he has spinal problems and we have been told not to let him jump which also stopped him from doing agility. I will take him back to training classes in the new year and hopefully entering him with in the next few months(he hats the heat so might wait until its cooler). thanks again for your replys. regards Bel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatevah Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Go here for the rules of CCD and CD http://www.dogtrick.741.com/mosesobedience.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bel Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 thank you for the link. I did about a five mimute training session with Pugsly earlier today and he was very eager to work. I will deffently be entering him within the next few months and will see how he goes. regards bel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bel Posted March 16, 2007 Author Share Posted March 16, 2007 I decided to bit the bullet and enter Pugsly in his first ccd trial. Although he didnt get a pass, he did better then i expected. He's score for heel work was 21 and he's stand for exam was 8. He then decided not to come on the recall. regards Bel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Well done! You would have been pleased in general, and its your first one over with now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janba Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Well done for a first attempt Was this at Castle Hill Show? If it was this is a hard trial to do well at with a novice dog because of all the distractions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Congrats - bad luck with the recall but it sounds like he did well for his first trial!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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