Andoria1 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I was just wondering if it is healthy for a puppy who is six months old to sleep outside on concrete. He used to be a inhouse dog , used to sleep on our bed with us. Until now as my partner wants him to stay outside. Now all the poor puppy does is sit by the door waiting to come inside. I have noticed when i finnish playing with the puppy outside, once i go indoors, my dog will just sit and wait by the door on the cold concrete floor. However when the dog is let inside, he becomes a little terror and tries to steal things of the table and you have to constantly watch what hes trying to grab. I feel sorry for him because when we give him his bed outside, he shreds it up and cant leave him unsupervised with it. Can someone provide me some feed back to this. I would like him to be comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugar Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 (edited) Could you crate train. Crate the dog at night inside. Does the dog have a kennel and bedding at night Edited November 4, 2006 by sugar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyMontage Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I don't think it is very nice on a dog having to sleep outside....totally alone (remember this is a pack animal) on concrete. Maybe if your partner always wanted the dog to be an outside dog, you should have never allowed him to sleep on your bed. You got him used to that, then all of a sudden he is turfed outside...he is probably wondering what the hell he did wrong! If your parner wants him outside that much, perhaps you should get him a kennel, or one of those beds that is raised off the ground. He is probably ripping up his bedding etc coz he knows that you go outside and pay attention to him when he does, if that is the case, he has you very well trained! If he really just doesn't want the dog sleeping on the bed, then dont let it sleep on the bed. My dog has always slept indoors at night and he only gets on the bed if we allow it. Otherwise, he usually just sleeps in the passage outside our bedroom door either on his cozy bed, or on the timber floors (if he is hot). Maybe you and your parnter can come to an agreement and maybe allow the dog to sleep inside, but initially in the laundry, or in a confined area (ie not the whole house). At first with mine I would shut the passage door, so he could go in and out of our room, down the passage and into the laundry. Now that he is 5 months old, he has run of the house at night. I trust that he will not do any harm to it, and he just sleeps when we do. Hope you get it all sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andoria1 Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 He does have doggy bed , but its all shredded up. Most of the inards in the bed is gone. So now he has half a bed LOL. And when i give it to him , he likes to drag it around the garden till its all messed up. And i dont have a kennel for him, but we have a empty garage that i thought he would use, but he dosent seem to like a Mansion Kennel (Garage) LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyMontage Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I say send your partner to sleep in the garage and see how he likes it...especially with half a bed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 He's eaten the bed because (a) he's 6 months old, and they do things like that (b) he's bored and lonely He has been inside, he is lonely outside, he doesn't understand why is he outside. Sitting or sleeping on the concrete is very bad for him. Concrete is a "heat soak" - that is, it sucks the heat from bodies. Buy him a sling bed with a bag cover, he can only eat the bag, and the only cost $4.50, or buy him a proper Ferplast bed (which looks like a plastic basket, but is indestructible) (from good pet shops) and buy an old bedspread/blanket from an op shop, and line the bed with that. When he eats the blanket, buy another one. Best practice would be to allow him inside, with some training about not stealing from the table, and allow him to sleep in his own bed, in your bedroom. If you train him, and allow him in regularly, he will behave in the house. Oh, and best advice - ditch the partner, keep the dog. Bargain!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andoria1 Posted November 4, 2006 Author Share Posted November 4, 2006 Oh, and best advice - ditch the partner, keep the dog. thumbsup1.gif Bargain!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 (edited) . Edited May 29, 2009 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOE Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Let the dog in the house and bed chuck the partner out on the cold concrete and see how he likes it. Bet he lets the dog back in. Hope this isnt a case of loved him when he was a cute bundle and cant be bothered with him now. (the partner I mean not you) Lots of dogs are quite happy to live outside because they dont know any different, but once they have been allowed to sleep inside it is a bit of a shock to be chucked out and puppy probably can not work out what he did to deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmons Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 (edited) Ditch the partner .. keep the dog. The pair of you have stuffed up this little puppy.... when he was cute and cuddly he was allowed to sleep on the bed and get away with murder in the house. Now that he's older, the cuteness has gone and he's tossed outside because he is uncontrollable. Very, very ,very sad.... sounds like another rescue/dumped dog in the making. Cold, hard concrete in an empty garage. Doesn't sound like a mansion kennel to me .... You can look forward to years of Vet bills dealing with arthritis. However your partner sounds the type who would either put the dog down or dump him rather than pay the Vet Bills. If you're really serious about wanting to do the best by this puppy which you have wrecked.... as by the time they are 16 weeks old they have learned and absorbed everything they can and obviously neither you nor your partner put any time into teaching this puppy the correct pack order and the house rules.....but you could try the following 1. Let the puppy inside and set the rules - by praise/ reward motivation NOT punishment. 2. Be CONSISTENT in what you expect of the puppy. 3.Give him HIS OWN AREA IN THE HOUSE - Everyone so far has suggested a crate, so go out and buy him a crate and toss out the Crazy Clarks cute pet bed because he will wreck it every time he's frustrated. Set up a play area for him with his own toys in it, his bedding, his bowls and have it near where he can see you. Let him sleep in the laundry if your partner won't let him in the other part of the house. 4. Get yourselves off to the local Obedience Club and do some serious training with this puppy. If you live in Brisbane, get the puppy to Val Bonney's Dog Obedience School. She will help you rectify the damage you have done. As for putting him in an empty garage - or even expecting him to go into the empty garage to sleep when every night ever since you brought him home he has been sleeping on your bed, you must be kidding. If all of the above seems too hard - take note and ditch the partner. If he doesn't like puppies, well maybe you should be having second thoughts about the guy...... You will have a hard row to hoe now because you have left your training 12 weeks too late. Why on earth did you get the puppy? Edited November 4, 2006 by Tarmons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 (edited) My husky slept next to my bed (but on the floor) until he was 12 months and we moved house and my mum decided he should be an outside dog because of all the fur in the house. I was dead against it and thought my husky would hate it. The first night he slept outside (he has a bed, a cane lounge, a blanket and a pillow with him) he cried, but after that he was fine. Now (when my mum is away) if I let him in for the night, he wants to go outside. He loves it! If your pup is chewing his matress, try and get him a bed with a steel frame (they are elevated off the ground). You can get them from heaps of pet stores and the dogs love them. Much harder for them to chew too! ETA: Here is a link for a pic of the bed: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-QUALITY-LUXURY-...oQQcmdZViewItem Edited November 5, 2006 by husky87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teebs Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 (edited) Umm. Re the being a total pain while inside have you trained him? He is prob happy to be inside that he gets excited, get him a crate and TRAIN him to be the dog you want him to be My 2 dont have a kennel (well, there is one, but At uses it to hide all his toys) They have the garage with a few beds in there, they have eaten god only knows how many beds since i got them - they are dogs, they do things like that! I have had these beds for 6 months now (my dogs are 1.5 and 3 years) but now i said that, they will kill the beds tomorrow I have nothing against having a dog outside at night (mine are crated at night inside) but make sure they have somewhere warm to sleep. Having a dog inside then chucking him out is just not on ETA : can you lock him in the garage at night? so he has no choice but to stay in there what sort of dog? Edited November 5, 2006 by Terrorbull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Having a dog inside then chucking him out is just not on My dog was an inside dog but he became an outside dog and LOVES IT. Not everyone can predict whether or not the dog will be inside or outside its entire life. Some people may move from a house they own, to a house they rent and can't help it - they have to have the dog outside per agreement with the owner. Or, like us, moved to a much smaller house and it was too difficult having a big, 12 month old husky dropping heaps of fur inside a very small house. We also found that it just suited the dog better and he now prefers being outside to in. There is nothing, IMHO, cruel about having a dog inside and then putting him out. Dogs are very resilent, adjustable animals. Trust me, the dog won't think that you love him any less. As long as you are still giving him lots of affection and treating him the same way he should be fine. However, you have to make sure that the dog has sufficient shelter, food, water, bedding etc or then it THATS just not on. JMHO, as I have had experience having an dog that was inside and is now out (and as someone who was opposed to having an outside dog, I think I will always have outside dogs from now on). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Poor pup..he wil be confused he wants to be near you..he has had you alongside him for months, and now he has no-one. He is a teenager, so to speak,so yes, he will get excited, chew things and play rough. Please take the pup to a puppy "school" or training session...you all need to learn how to compromise Puppy may be happier if, at bedtime he gets the largest meaty bone you can buy...or a "kong" toy full of yummy things to occupy him. A bed is needed..so he feels warm and safe. buy old quilts or towels from the op shop,maybe. He doesn't know why he is suddenly outside.... When you take him to the vet for his desexing soon, have a chat to the vet , perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 (edited) Poor pup..he wil be confused he wants to be near you..he has had you alongside him for months, and now he has no-one. He is a teenager, so to speak,so yes, he will get excited, chew things and play rough.Please take the pup to a puppy "school" or training session...you all need to learn how to compromise Puppy may be happier if, at bedtime he gets the largest meaty bone you can buy...or a "kong" toy full of yummy things to occupy him. A bed is needed..so he feels warm and safe. buy old quilts or towels from the op shop,maybe. He doesn't know why he is suddenly outside.... When you take him to the vet for his desexing soon, have a chat to the vet , perhaps? I think the pup will adjust. When you set up his bed, put an old tshirt or piece of clothing of yours in it so he is surrounded by your smell. IMHO I don't think the dog will be sitting outside thinking "they don't love me, I'm outside and abandoned, I have no-one"... He is a dog! Dogs live in the now, and most importantly they don't think the same way people do: they don't sit around thinking about us not loving them etc - for example, a dog who hates the post man doesn't sit around all day thinking "I'm going to bark when that postman gets here!" They only react as soon as they hear the postman coming. I promise you, if you decide you want your dog to be outside, he will be FINE. Persephone is right about puppy school, your pup sounds like he needs an outlet for all his energy! ETA: If you decide to have the pup outside, be consistent. Until he gets used to it don't let him inside - this is what will confuse him. He probably doesn't understand why he is allowed inside one minute and then not the next. Edited November 5, 2006 by husky87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 we have outside and inside dogs....I am happy for dogs to be outside Most of ours are. He is a dog..yes.. but a PUPPY, and his nights HAVE changed, and he no longer has his companions or bed. he will go thru an adjustment phase...and be missing the body warmth/contact/companionship.It is to be expected. Adult dogs can cope a lot better, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 we have outside and inside dogs....I am happy for dogs to be outside Most of ours are. He is a dog..yes.. but a PUPPY, and his nights HAVE changed, and he no longer has his companions or bed. he will go thru an adjustment phase...and be missing the body warmth/contact/companionship.It is to be expected. Adult dogs can cope a lot better, IMO. I agree! I think adult dogs can adjust a little easier, because puppies are often quite needy/don't understand boundaries yet. I think with puppies you have to be really strictly consistent. Like I said, the best advice I've been given re: puppies and their beds is to put a tshirt of yours in the bed so they have their smell with them. Did the owner mention hold old the pup is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 six months..and full of life ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 six months..and full of life ! Wow... I remember the six months age... Full of life is a nice, censored way to refer to it! From the owner's pic the dog looks like it might have cattle dog in it? Maybe the owner could try agility to tire it out? Would a dog that's six months old still be pining/missing its litter mates at night time? I would have thought that it would have adjusted to sleeping on its own by this age??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andoria1 Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 See there is a problem with my dog being inside, one is that the place we moved into, the aggreement is that the dog has to be an outside dog. And also when is time for us to go to bed chewy would rather start playing or bouncing on the bed instead of going to sleep or lie down. However in our previous place he was kind of ok, and would go to sleep if we went to bed (sometimes). And if we do take him inside to sleep in our new house, he will whine to go outside or play in the bedroom. But when hes outside he will whine to get inside. I dont understand my dog at all. Hes very disobedient when he wants to be, very bossy too. We have a metal frame bed for him, but he likes to play with it by dragging it around the house. We have a bed for him similar to this http://doggiehome.us/foldingbed/foldingbed4.jpg And he dosent like to sit on it for very long and if we put a blanket on it he will try to eat it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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