Silverblue Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 (edited) One of my pups from Boris & Smudge has just been diagnosed with mouth cancer, he is only 12 months old They were playing ball & noticed blood on the ball, so they took him to the vets where they have done biopsies etc, they will know more on Thursday, however I will be ringing the vet in the morning. He did have an overshot mouth (bottom jaw sticking out), but I doubt this has anything to do with it, he is eating & playing. I am at a bit of a loss Edited December 5, 2006 by Silverblue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 If it were my pup, I would be putting it onto selenium (1mg per 10kg bodyweight daily) plus 500 IU Vit E. Yesterday! The vets will say that this dose is far too high and toxic, but toxicity doesn't occur until 2-4 mg per 1kg bodyweight. An orthomolecular doctor put me onto this, as a Canadian vet is using this protocol with his patients, and has very promising results so far. They need to buy a selenium sheep drench called Selenium Drench Concentrate, and dilute according to instructions - it will cost about $20. Vit E from the supermarket will do. Many people have cured their own cancers with this same product, including terminal, inoperable bowel cancer, in just a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibizan Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Hi Silverblue, So sorry to hear about your pup.Contact Robert McDowell on 02 6331 3937.He is a herbalist in Sydney,and works a lot with cancer in dogs.You can have a free consultation with him,he is very helpful and very good. He has a great web site,just google his name and have a look. Good luck with your pup,hope everything turns out well for him. Regards Marion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royz Mastiffs Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 So sorry to hear about the little one, please let us know how he gets on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverblue Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share Posted October 30, 2006 Thanks for that Marion, That is a great site, i will pass it on to his owners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Oh no Poor thing. I hope he gets better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BT-Argo Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Morgan Are you saying Selenium helps people with cancer???? I have started to look into this on the web and see what it states... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbesotted Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Bloody Hell. 12 months is appallingly young!\\ I use Dr Barbara Fougere ( holisticvet) and have since august 2002. If you would like contact details let me know. Holistic treatment is very individual and I prefer to have individual consultations. My Lucinda has been treated by Barbara since the beginning of september 2002. ( at that time I was advised by Lucinda s oncologist at the Uni of Qld Vet Clinic to take her home for a few days to say goodbye.It is now Oct 2006 and the fair L is still here and still having quality of life altho we are now heading towards that final journey. H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Morgan Are you saying Selenium helps people with cancer???? I have started to look into this on the web and see what it states... The orthomolecular doctor that put me onto it has had excellent results with his patients. The vitamin E helps with the whole process. Ordinary doctors will not agree with it, due to potential toxicity, how they can prefer the incredibly toxic, carcinogenic chemo is beyond me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverblue Posted October 31, 2006 Author Share Posted October 31, 2006 Ok I spoke to the vet today ( totally off record ) It seems they found a Large mass in his mouth, biopsies were taken & as his lymph nodes were also swollen it was decieded to test tham as well, In the vets words " It doesn't look very promising " The results should be back either tommorow or thursday, when the vet will ring me again to discuss with the owners what options are avaible. Will keep you posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaywoman68 Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Oh no big big to you, Boris and Smudge's little bub and to the owners I hope the vet is overreacting and it's good news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibizan Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Hi Silverblue, will be thinking of you all.Hope the news will be good news.Big hugs for the little one. Marion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverblue Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 No news yet, will update as soon as I hear something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aniangel Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 i'm sorry to hear about your puppy silverblue and if you need any advice once the histopath results are back i can certainly help you decipher. i am a veterinary oncology nurse working with antony moore and angela frimberger in NSW, both of whom are world renowned veterinary medical oncologists. there are only 5 oncologists and 1 internal medicine specialist with special interest in oncology in australia. i'm not sure what state you are in but i can also help you with names for referral, etc if you need it. just remember that not all cancers need chemo, but some definately do. depending on the tumor type, surgery may well be a cure. and if chemo is needed, the goal in veterinary oncology is quality of life for your pet and yourself! chemotherapy in pets is not as severe as it is in humans for many reasons. i have never heard of selenium as a treatment of cancer in pets, but depending on its mechanisms it may assist with boosting the immune system etc and give additional support - i would get veterinary advice about it. if you need any futher info, please feel free to PM me and you can also check out some great information at www.vetoncologyconsults.com best of luck, will keep fingers and toes crossed! lynne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipy Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 What you are saying is that its not 100% cancer, it still could be a benign tumor? Good luck!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverblue Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 Still no news, hopefully monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverblue Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 Ok it has now been confirmed, it is a very aggressive form of cancer. I am meeting with the vet & the owners on Wednesday evening to discuss what to do next. This is just what I need right now :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaywoman68 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Oh no ;) :p ;) :p Dont know what else to say. I'm happy to listen if you ever need someone to talk to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 (edited) . Edited May 29, 2009 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuddles Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I am so sorry to read the prognosis. Poor Baby...... hugs to you all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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