Lablover Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Is there a link to the Susan Garrett seminar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J... Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I'd love to go - hadn't heard about it until now! Just read her book "Shaping Success, will be getting the "one jump" DVD next.... So yes any information would be much appreciated!! Canberra's not that far from Western Vic........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooper Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 (edited) There is a link from the ACT Companion Dog Club's website: http://www.actcdc.org.au, I think. Edited October 26, 2006 by Mooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJack Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 If that's the same Trent and Jem who also do sheepherding (and Kylie with Possum) then, yes, Jem is a high-drive dog! He's a cheeky monkey but great fun, and a great test of patience I dare say yes its the same Trent and Jem. Trent has seen this thread and wants to know if you mean he is a cheeky monkey or Jem! Jo PS: Actually Mooper they are both a great test of patience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clover Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Though the downside is i sometimes look and think I'm sending the better dog off to a new home Do what i did and keep the foster... my little girl just got her FDX (Flyball Dog Excellent) title a couple of weeks back.. not bad for an ex sheep dog that has been with me 10 months . Once Elvis, Tinny and i start agility i will let you know if they are out of control ... Elvis especially as he is an insane Flyball dog.. fun to handle, just a bit crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidoney Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 Mooper, Susan is definitely worth going to. If you've not worked with a clicker trainer, would definitely recommend it. Or if you have. I knew Trent when he was up in Sydney. Around the traps and attended the same ADAA camp at one time. Can't remember where I heard/read this, but it was suggested that agility jumping be taught BEFORE flyball jumping, since laying the foundations for a flexible approach to jumping (long and flat or short and round) can encompass flyball jumping, whereas doing only flyball type jumping and later adding agility means that one is actually changing the jumping style. Clover, I really CAN'T keep Darcie. It would be too many dogs. The alternative would be to rehome Pickle, and I can't do that to my daughter, keep an extra one for me and rehome hers. As it is we are working hard to keep Pickle (husband not keen on this number of dogs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 OK I am going to sound like a complete dill here I didn't know about the different styles of jumping. I have never really 'taught' any of my dogs to jump a certain way, they just jump the way they do. Could someone please explain the difference? And how would you teach one over the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooper Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 yes its the same Trent and Jem. Trent has seen this thread and wants to know if you mean he is a cheeky monkey or Jem![\quote] I meant Jem. But now that you mention it ... ]/quote name='TigerJack' date='26th Oct 2006 - 09:31 PM' post='1321520'] PS: Actually Mooper they are both a great test of patience! Jem or Trent? Have you been to Binalong or Michelago lately, TigerJack? We've been going to Bungendore (smaller groups, closer to home) but I'm keen to get Robert to give me a hand working with my boofhead Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidoney Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 Sheesh, where to start about jumping, it is a huge subject all on its own. Imagine seeing a dog jump while tucking its legs up under itself, head goes down as it jumps as a counter balance, back is rounded, uses its hindquarters in take off and can gets its hind end under it when landing, for the next stride. The dog can jump short (less distance between takeoff and landing, rounded arc) or long (longer distance, flatter arc) as needed, depending on whether it's on a straight or turning, or if there is a second jump to do soon after the first one. The highest point of the dog's arc is over the bar. Now change any of these. Dog's legs not tucked means dog has to get whole weight higher, which is more fatiguing and more impact on landing. Head held high, centre of weight again is higher, plus head up means dog's back is flat, which means a long jumping dog not using its hindquarters properly, this dog may not be able to jump short when needed. Dog's arc not highest over bar means dog is jumping bigger and longer than it needs. There is more to it than this, this is just to give you an idea. To teach a dog to jump properly there are a number of grid type exercises, with different distances between a row of jumps, so that the dog has to use a shorter or longer stride, learns to regulate jump arc, to use its hindquarters, to "bascule" (horse term, means round its spine). Grids can be straight or curved. Curving teaches a dog to jump shorter, to place itself for a turn. There are also single and two jump exercises that you can do. Doing jump training teaches a dog how to judge distances, how to use its body, how to manage fast flat out jumping runs, tight twisty courses, and to be efficient in doing so. Good form in jumping can prevent injury to the dog. This is only a very brief overview but hope it gives you some idea of jumping training and why it's important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Thanks for the explanation! Looks like I've got some research to do on teaching jumping Maybe you can show me sometime I only have two jumps at the moment, maybe I have to get some more . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidoney Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 It will be some time before Kaos is old enough to learn to jump, plenty of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueM Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Have you any pics of Pickle Flyballing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidoney Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 (edited) We've only attended two weeks with dogs so far ... will post piccies when I have some. We are still in the early stages yet. Edited October 27, 2006 by sidoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueM Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidoney Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 (edited) Pickle looks great running ... my daughter handles her so I can see her run ... the black and white flash ... Darcie I only see from front on but I can tell that she's tearing it up!!! Edited October 27, 2006 by sidoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooper Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Have you been to Binalong or Michelago lately, TigerJack? We've been going to Bungendore (smaller groups, closer to home) but I'm keen to get Robert to give me a hand working with my boofhead Jack. No need to respond to this, Jo. Kylie has filled me in. Back on-topic (this one has meandered a bit ) I can't wait to see some piccies of Pickle and Darcie in action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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