Anguswift Posted October 19, 2006 Author Share Posted October 19, 2006 The breeder actually mentioned his litter was the worst she's ever had in terms of being housetrained. Luckily he turned out to be a good boy We took him to puppy school once, but didn't really like it, so we decided to do it ourselves. A friend of mine is a dog trainer, so she gives me all the tips I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anguswift Posted October 19, 2006 Author Share Posted October 19, 2006 I think the problems with Shar Peis eyes is the show judging. They want to see rolls, and lots of them, so the breeders attempt to breed rolls into them, hence the eyes causing problems. One of the pups from the same litter as Angus had terrible eyes, even at 8 weeks, a lot worse than his. The person who had ordered to dog has requested for it to be kept away from the other dogs, so it remained docile and unsocialised for show. Sad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badboyz Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 (edited) "docile & unsocialized for show" - When I pick a show puppy I want the most outgoing, pushy, look-at-me puppy in the litter! Does the breeder of this litter actually show dogs her/himself? I've never heard of such a thing! Edited to add: that when choosing a puppy for the ring the amount of wrinkles has very low priority. For me good eyes are a very high priority, as are fabulous movement and attitude. Edited October 19, 2006 by badboyz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anguswift Posted October 19, 2006 Author Share Posted October 19, 2006 "docile & unsocialized for show" - When I pick a show puppy I want the most outgoing, pushy, look-at-me puppy in the litter! Does the breeder of this litter actually show dogs her/himself? I've never heard of such a thing!Edited to add: that when choosing a puppy for the ring the amount of wrinkles has very low priority. For me good eyes are a very high priority, as are fabulous movement and attitude. I'm only going on what I've heard. I would never actually attend, or enter a dog show, it's just not my thing. It wasn't the breeder making those demands, it was the buyer of Angus' brother, she just complied with what he wanted and made the comments I posted above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 (edited) The person who had ordered to dog has requested for it to be kept away from the other dogs, so it remained docile and unsocialised for show. That is one mighty strange request, methinks this person knows next to nothing about dogs and/or showing. ETA if I had a puppy buyer who requested something like this there is absolutely NO way that they'd be getting a puppy from me and I'm surprised that the breeder of your boy complied. Edited October 19, 2006 by Miranda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peibe Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 (edited) His eyes were shocking poor boy peibe I was just wondering when you can tell if a Shar Pei is going to develop entropian. Would the breeders have had any idea when they sold the puppy at (I presume) 8 weeks old? If not at what age do you begin to notice that a dog has a problem? Is it very widespread within the breed? You can tell if the eyes are really bad, but a dog with perfect eyes can still get entropian later in life When I was buying my dogs I looked at the parents, checking for entropian or scaring from surgeries. Then went back through the lines to check previous dogs and bitches. I also have a health guarantee from both breeders of my dogs to state they will be free of entropian, and if they do develop it they pay for the corrective surgery Sorry to say Angus but it is not the judges that want rollier dogs it is the public, thanks to the TV commercials. Sad too say aswell there are not enough ethical shar pei breeders out there breeding for betterment of the breed, most breed for money But that should be changing soon as Shar Pei are not a huge sort after breed anymore and alot are getting out Your Angus is lovely, I am glad you brought him and paid for his eyes to be done, alot of people dump them when they find out how much surgery is, or leave them and the dogs end up with scaring on the eyeball and go blind ETA yes Miranda it is widespread in the breed, one of the biggest problems. I know of Registered Breeders that still breed with dogs with entropian, that should be stopped Edited October 19, 2006 by peibe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Very interesting, but somewhat unsettling to hear that reg. breeders aren't doing the right thing. Thanks peibe for the information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peibe Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Not a problem I know of a few great breeders but not enough to help the breed As far as I am aware there is no health testing for Shar Pei in Australia, that is unsettling. They have a wide range of health issues that are not being addressed Entropian, HD, ED, Elongated soft palate, skin issues, parrot mouth, cleft palate, kidney problems, FSF, Mast cell tumors are just a few of the problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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