FreyaJade Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 (edited) I should have done some more research before buying mine! It's the type you have to undo the links to get off and on and it drives me insane! You must be supposed to have big strong man hands to do it, and it doesn't help when it's attached to a wriggling 30 kg Doberman either! Out of curiosity, what are you supposed to do when you're dog still pulls on a prong?? I don't want to use it like a check chain, or are you supposed to give a correction with it?? My older dobe still pulls me along happily in the prong which to me is actually proof they don't actually hurt!! He doesn't pull AS much as he does in a flat collar, but still enough to be annoying! I have myself purchased two prong collars (from K9 funnily enough ) & during my research of them, i assumed I would just be able to buy one & go from there. But with the prong, you really need to be shown the method that K9 was talking about. I had a lesson last Saturday & I have both of my dogs walking excellent on their prongs. Not to say my training has finished. It's only just begun. RB - If your dog is still pulling with the prong on - you need to get yourself a lesson on how to use the prong correctly. Oh yeah I also wanted to add that the quick release prong wouldn't be the one I'd get. I have one like the first pictured prong & yeah it's abit fiddly & my girl likes to squirm around herself while I'm firtting the prong or taking it off. But you know what....everything takes practise. K9 saw me struggling with it on my first attempt but it didn't discourage me. I know I'll get it. But if he had sold me a quick release one, I'd be worried the collar would come off when I'd need it the most. Edited September 21, 2006 by FreyaJade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityBites Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Well I bought mine from the trainer at the dog club I go to, and all he did was fit it for me and then wander off again.................K9, can you email or pm me what I should be doing?? I should be paying you instead of the club............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 K9: yes pay me, now your talkin! You have a pm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKat Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 (edited) Steve it's looking like you'll have to put out a DVD on the subject of "Training with a Prong/Pinch Collar" ETA - FreyaJade - the reason why i like the first quick release collar is i'm not worried about the snap releasing to easily...because of one of hte dogs i've seen it on - basically if he could have walked/pulled thru it he'd be the dog to do it - as it is he can ignore the prong when he wants - and my pair of GSD's aren't as....willful...as he can be...lol. So if it can stay on that boy then i know it wouldn't be a problem with my pair. Edited September 21, 2006 by KitKat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Oh and there are some plastic ones I think american made and they dont look like prongs on the outside as the plastic is kind off solid plate for each link, but they interlock with plastic as well and will unclip if not carefull.This is my recent choice Oh I like this one.....where did you get it from? Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Yes Sas I bought it in Poland during my recent visit. The standard prong collar on a short haired dog just stands out heaps, so I searched for alternatives. This is another type I have Most of my freinds like this type more than the first one I posted. They have 4 raws of spikes insead of two. These are not as effective but they are practically invisible on the dogs neck. They are not as good quality as HS or the ones K9 sells. Its a shame we cant get them here easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyaJade Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 (edited) :D Steve it's looking like you'll have to put out a DVD on the subject of "Training with a Prong/Pinch Collar" ETA - FreyaJade - the reason why i like the first quick release collar is i'm not worried about the snap releasing to easily...because of one of hte dogs i've seen it on - basically if he could have walked/pulled thru it he'd be the dog to do it - as it is he can ignore the prong when he wants - and my pair of GSD's aren't as....willful...as he can be...lol. So if it can stay on that boy then i know it wouldn't be a problem with my pair. Hey that's sweet, each to their own. I have found on other leads I have used with the quick release clip is that it can snap open without warning. Say if there was a cat or a small dog nearby whilst your walking your dog & you don't see it but your dog does. He pulls hard & 'snap' the collar comes loose & the dog goes running. Perhaps the quick release clip on these prongs are of better quality, I've just come across too many of these clips that have come loose whilst on walks. One of them would come loose from my dog's collar when she would shake her head. Steve if you do release a DVD for prong collar training, I reckon GirlDog would be the perfect star for the series. Hollywood here we come. Edited September 22, 2006 by FreyaJade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 The first time I saw the pinch collar myszka posted with the 4 rows, I thought it was a double rowed martingale! Very tricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassie Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Have PMed you K9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie-i Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 I do like the look of the martingale type - very stylish! K9 any chance of bringing some new ones over for a squizz?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 (edited) . Edited May 19, 2009 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie-i Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 (edited) Yes, but the one with the thicker, layered martingale section, rather than just links as per the original prong. Edited September 23, 2006 by Kelpie-i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 (edited) . Edited May 19, 2009 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 On the subject of prongs, I'm interested in methods of disguise for an extremely short haired dog. While I'm willing to work behind the scenes to help promote the prong as a good tool with professional guidance on its use,(and I'm actually working on this) I don't want every time that I take my dog out for a walk to become a defence of my chosen and professionally guided methods. Our walks are time for me and my dog. Prob is that the prong does stand out like dogs proverbials on an extremely short haired dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKat Posted September 26, 2006 Author Share Posted September 26, 2006 Ribbons are nice...and so are bandannas.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 (edited) . Edited May 19, 2009 by cavNrott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 I used to put a bandana, but it gave me the sh*ts, so at the end I just had the collar on and didnt care. I must say I was asked about it few times, but becouse my dog is really nice and well behaved (well with people that is) I never had any problems. Than I got the prong with the short spikes just in case one day someone said something. My suggestion is - convince those with the permit to import to get some of the short spiked ones, but from what I understand its a LOT of work to get them in. Plus the quality isnt as good as HS or Bosh or Pixie. Alternativelly an angle grainer is an option (only kidding, that isnt a real suggestion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Just hand sew a bandana on the prong collar ... that way you don't have to tie the bandana on and the collar won't slip out from under it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie-i Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 The Martingale part of the collar refers to the slip looped chain with the ring that the lead is attached to, not the collar itself. Thanks CNR, I know what a martingale is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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