Nekhbet Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 This dog needs something - physical corrections with a check frankly I cant see that working. The dog has built up his threshold with the yanking, tugging, jumping etc so thats why i said a prong AND TRAINER. I would never advise someone to just start correcting its head off because if done at too low a level it builds the dog - That is when you start seeing dogs become iffy about others because their anxiousness towards other dogs + antagonism through correction creates a negative experience. The dog would be corrected for chucking a complete spaz and ignoring verbal commands. I train with staffies, Amstaffs etc and these dogs are taught (like TG) to leave it, but if they break the drop or bolt foreward after being told to drop/sit they are corrected for disobeying the original command. When they settle and focus they are allowed to contact the other dog, but the owner praises the dog for being calm and friendly. Building focus through drive satisfaction is the way to go. Keeping the dog at a safe distance and dissasociating sitting/calming down with being let off to play too. If he settles at obedience and then BANG straight off with the others there is an expectation when he's out on the street too. A few sessions of deprivation of play to show that SIT around other dogs does not mean PLAY as well. I'm not advocating punishment but letting a dog carry on and not being able to at least put a dent in the drive is just as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headdog Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 i have 2 11mth am staffs , a male and a female they do exactly the same, (not backflips, just pull like crazy towards other dogs) if i walk them together. On their own they arnt so bad, good luck with your problem. Ill read with interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffles Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 It seems us Amstaffers have the same problem at the same age! Loki pulls like a nutcracker but its aggression not just out of wanting to play. I'm also following this thread eagerly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herding_guy Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 (edited) Go get a GOOD trainer involved NOW! No-one here can see how the dog is actually reacting and advice should be given only after seeing the dog and handler in action. Correcting this behaviour with choke / lead / prong etc could lead from an excited, exhuberant, ill mannered dog to an aggressive monster if not done correctly. May I add - the dog must be shown how to react through safe controlled set ups. In the dogs head he is reacting how he thinks he should and hasn't been shown any other way. Get a GOOD trainer involved. Edited September 20, 2006 by herding_guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf82 Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 He doesnt do it at doggy school, just the beach. Trust me when i say its not aggressive, im not a moron, he just wants to play. We have had off lead dogs come charging towards us and stopping about 1ft away then come closer to sniff (while im telling the other to get their f**king dog) and Loki is wagging so hard his body is bending. Ill be consulting the head trainer at doggy school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatdex Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Both u and ruffles dogs names are Loki? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffles Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 (edited) Both u and ruffles dogs names are Loki? LOL Yup! And they're the same age give a week or two... My Loki's sires name is ODIN, Wolf's Sibe's name is ODIN. CREEPY! Edited September 22, 2006 by Ruffles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haven Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 My dogs name is Loki too and so is one of my Rotti's litter brothers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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