Mouthing

[Jeff Jones]

my growl is timed at the same time as the mouthing...and continues until the release is gained.

i realise this has worked for you but becoming confrontational whilst a dog already has its mouth over your hand isnt where i would want to be.

growling at the dog illicits a response of either backing down of escalating the situation....depends on the dog and how the dog percieves the growl

where as "yelping" or saying "no" whilst you pull your arm away and ignoring the dog avoids any confrontation with the dog and the dog is unable to get the desired response from you

Edited September 16, 2006 by Jeff Jones

[Australdi]

where as "yelping" or saying "no" whilst you pull your arm away and ignoring the dog avoids any confrontation with the dog and the dog is unable to get the desired response from you

see Jeff....is, if I was to think like a dog on this...a yelp & retreat is an instant admission of submissiveness

..so therefore, I now know I can get my own way by repeating the behaviour, I am dominant...and can use that to gain control over those beneath my pack level...it's pretty cute if I'm a small dog...but it's downright serious if I'm a larger, more "agressive" breed....and that...simply...is why I don't give my Dobe's the opportunity to experience that superiority over me

as soon as they get to the age when they're ready to test my pack status (as they all do) then I let them know in dog language, that they don't have a hope of getting me to back down or submitt...and they accept this, and I never have an argument over dominance again! Instead, I have a Dobe who is eager to do what I ask...responsive to recall...totally trustworthy with children & pups...but a real man-stopper when it comes to un-authorised intrusions or attacks!

I went through this dominence challenge with Daim's at 10 mths of age....he lived to almost 11 & never again challenged my leadership! ;)

...I'm just puting this up as alternative food for thought!

Aus

[shoemonster]

Aus, keep in mind, she doesn't do it with us

Did you guys read what I said about her with my mum?

ISN'T IT GOOD?

[Zia's Nuthouse]

Just a thought shoemonster. I know others have said, to explain to people that you are trying to get her out of this. You might just have to be a little bit firmer with them, and really lay down the law. Something like "Sorry guys but I really need you all to do this and this, because we are doing our very best to stop Molly doing this".

Also I love the spray bottle. I think it works a treat, but thats for me. Alot of people I know, have your dilemma about getting to the dog with the bottle in time.

Solution? Buy half a dozen Have one in every room if you need too, and two in the main room that visitors sit and pat Molly. Eventually Molly will know the bottle is there for her too see, and mine hate that even more

That way you have one at hand quickly and efficiently to give her the squirt at the appropriate time. They are only a couple of dollars from the supermarket, so stocking up is pretty easy

Good luck

[shoemonster]

Thanks Zia, will keep it in mind

[Zia's Nuthouse]

You're very welcome

[Jeff Jones]

see Jeff....is, if I was to think like a dog on this...a yelp & retreat is an instant admission of submissiveness wink.gif

sorry where i typed "yelp" i ment to have the person say "ouch"

still doesnt matter what the person says as the person isnt going into submissive behaviour...the person gets up and walks away....without paying any further attention to the dog, which is not submissive behaviour...

anyway this is going off topic now as the op has figured out why the dog is doing it and putting in measures to stop the dog from continuing on with this behaviour,

good luck with your pooches and what ever method you use