shoemonster Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Another thread just reminded me to post this Molly is 14 months old, we got her at 8 months, and she was HORRIBLE with mouthing at peoples hands, and wrists, obviously no one ever stopped her as a pup Now she no longer does it to us, (we use pressure on her bottom jaw and tongue) but she still does it to friends, family, etc How do we stop this? (she is 50% better than she was and she is not hurting anyone but I do not ever want anyone to think that she is vicious in any way and would prefer to stop it happening) It normally happens when people pat her so obviously I could just not allow anyone near her but I'd prefer to fix it rather than just remove the trigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeak Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Another thread just reminded me to post thisMolly is 14 months old, we got her at 8 months, and she was HORRIBLE with mouthing at peoples hands, and wrists, obviously no one ever stopped her as a pup Now she no longer does it to us, (we use pressure on her bottom jaw and tongue) but she still does it to friends, family, etc How do we stop this? (she is 50% better than she was and she is not hurting anyone but I do not ever want anyone to think that she is vicious in any way and would prefer to stop it happening) It normally happens when people pat her so obviously I could just not allow anyone near her but I'd prefer to fix it rather than just remove the trigger Water pistol combined with a firm "no". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 (edited) Problem being that it is when other people are patting her, not us, so by the time we would get to squirt her she has stopped anyway I think I will just have to get every single person who she does it to, to ignore her or walk off on her when/if she does it, but its going to be really unpractical that way too So frustrating cos people don't like to listen huh?!!! They will say, "oh I'll just give her a pat cos I feel mean ignoring her" Edited September 15, 2006 by shoemonster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haven Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 I use different techniques based on each dog and my assessment of why they are doing it, but for an older dog who should know better, I often let them mouth me while I play the "let's see how much of my hand you actually want in your mouth" game. They stop very quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozzie Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Shooey- If you come here and ignore my two when you come in the door, I'll ignore Molly when she mouths :p No one who visits pays any attention when I say to not greet the dogs or acknowledge them until they sit.. so they don't jump on me when I get home but anyone else is fair game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 Haven, yeah we use that too, and it works with us, and she rarely if ever does it, its other people that is hard Loz, sure thing! It's so hard, because you feel rude when you ask people to do it, and they don't take it seriously I'm sure that I have in the past done the same by not realising what the trainers/owners were trying to achieve (before I had dogs) but now if anyone asked me I would do it right away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozzie Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 you are going to be walking in and out my front door for hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 Thats ok, you will have to either ignore moo cow head, or jam your hand in her mouth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozzie Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 No worries, sounds like a great deal! Will you be at KCC on Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres my rock Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 tell people you are teching manners so cold they ask her to sit before patting and then you enforce the sit if epople know you are doing manners they usually oblige we'll have a look today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 Yeah Loz, we will be there Sunday Cool Stella, will show you what I mean today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres my rock Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 no probs i tend to find you have to do the work because other people always forget so if you insists she sits and then call her away its easier than asking others unless of course your with a groupp of brlliant trainers and tey all do the right thing hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 :p Its more the people like the MIL that are the problem! Or the friend that comes over and wrestles with her, then tells her to settle down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres my rock Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 easy chuck the dogs out with big meaty bones when those epople come over and tell them not to disturb the dogs while they are eating i always chuck mine out when epopel come then let them in when everyone has settled down also with the wrestling tell the person that you are having issues with molly wanting to sretle other epople and kids so you are not allowing anyoe to play that with her give her a toy and show her how to play fetch or tell her you need help wit trianig ad get her to take mlly through some tricks but me i'd just remove the dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 Some things to think about there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australdi Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 hey I just used a well timed growl...but that seems to be frowned upon in these circles! Aus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 hey I just used a well timed growl...but that seems to be frowned upon in these circles!Aus I don't frown on using a well timed growl, Aus .... so long as it is appropriate, for the right reason and by the right people. And sometimes there is more to it and more required than simply a "growl". Depends on the dog and the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Jones Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 (edited) hey smile.gif I just used a well timed growl...but that seems to be frowned upon in these circles!Aus what has worked for you will not work for every dog in "similar" circumstances, and i believe growling at this dog is dangerous advice, at the moment the staffy is mouthing peoples hands as it gets there attention eg. staffy places mouth over hand, the person moves the hand out of the staffys mouth and places there hand on the dogs head the dog sees it as every time i put my mouth on the persons hand i receive a reward whether it be from the voice of the person saying yuck dont do that...or a pat on the head what would be a safer option and less confronting to the dog would be once the dog places its mouth over the persons hand have the person either "yelp" and pull tghere hand away or say "no" and pull there hand away and ignore the dog untill it has calmed down then once the dog has calmed down proceed to pat the dog...if the dog places its mouth over there hand again follow with either a "yelp" or a "no"...then ignore the dog untill it has calmed down again edit for typos Edited September 16, 2006 by Jeff Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australdi Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 my growl is timed at the same time as the mouthing...and continues until the release is gained. Aus..already prepared for flying rocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted September 16, 2006 Author Share Posted September 16, 2006 (edited) Aus, the growl may work if it were me she was doing it to, but my main problem is not her doing it to me (cause we have fixed that part) but to other people who I don't trust to be able to get it right, I have growled at my dogs under certain circumstances before so I don't frown upon you Jeff Jones, thankyou, I must be thick sometimes and I never thought of that as being why she does it, but you are right! I was watching her with my mum today - my mum has an aversion to dogs but is very good with mine considering, however she won't allow their mouths near her, which in this case tunred out to be interesting to watch Molly's behaviour She immediately went to mouth but mum of course didn't let her, so she instead sat and let mum pat her, it didn't make sense to me until I just read your post, so thankyou, Molly just needs more people like my mum around her lol, as opposed to dog people who will "let" her do it to them! Edited September 16, 2006 by shoemonster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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