Kirri Ku Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 (edited) Hi all, Heres the story. One of my dogs ( Keeshond ) has developed a skin disorder. My vet has prescribed a daily dose of Cephalexin 600 ( half tablet twice a day ) and a half tablet of Pred-X 20 every second day. She has recommended that we clip her to keep her coat short to aid in the treatment. So I would like to buy a good clipper that can manage a Keehonds coat without much fuss. Have been spending a lot of time on the net finding out all I can and at the moment I am considering buying a Wahl KM-2 or KM-SS (lowest price so far $220) which I think can handle the job of clipping my Dogs coat. What I need is advice on a good Clipper ( maybe my choice is not the best ?) and what sort of Blade / Size should I use for a Keeshond.. Thanks in advance.. (EDIT Spelling) Edited June 29, 2006 by Fluffy Woofers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaywoman68 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 You should try contacting Colin (DOL name: nicestman77). Colin has many years grooming experience and he also sharpens clipper blades and scissors etc. I'm sure he can help you He's certainly helped me heaps!!! I've met him in person too when I collected my clippers and he was really nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverblue Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Wahl clippers are good, they are lighter & quieter than the Osters. If you are looking to go short you may try a 7' blade, personally I wouldn't go any shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivvy Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Wahl clippers are good, they are lighter & quieter than the Osters.If you are looking to go short you may try a 7' blade, personally I wouldn't go any shorter. but Oster lasts alot longer. Personally I would suggest that you get a groomer to do it for you. I have seen too many ppl pay for a good pair of clippers and give up. If you dont know what you are doing you could nik the dog. And a keeshond that has never been done before, trust me, Not easy. How many times would he/she have to be done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirri Ku Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 Wahl clippers are good, they are lighter & quieter than the Osters. If you are looking to go short you may try a 7' blade, personally I wouldn't go any shorter. but Oster lasts alot longer. Personally I would suggest that you get a groomer to do it for you. I have seen too many ppl pay for a good pair of clippers and give up. If you dont know what you are doing you could nik the dog. And a keeshond that has never been done before, trust me, Not easy. How many times would he/she have to be done? My Keehonds are currently clipped by a lady who does their hydrobath every second week (we wash them in between hydrobaths). She clips them both twice a year during the warmer time of year. They seem happier after being clipped, and the clips cost about $240 per year all up. Anyway, I now need to have Keesie clipped more often so I am at the point where it may be more economical to buy clippers and do it myself. Keesie is extreamly docile and she is not the least bit concerned about getting clipped. She is the sort of dog that just wants to love everyone and has never shown any agression that I can remember.. She will be sleeping in our bedroom during the cooler months so as not to get too cold when she is clipped.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I currently have Wahl KM-S and PetPro Boss (which I bought from Nicestman 77). I would suggest that you get a #7 blade for clipping her back over the summer, a #5 for the winter, and then a #10 for her tummy which you can use year round. I had a few problems here with finding a good blade sharpening service and using google found Nicestman77 (before he joined DOL). Would be happy to give you a clipping lesson if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Ask different groomers and you will get different answers LOL! I would go with the Oster clippers (I find the wahl clippers to flimsy for thick coats). I would use a 7f blade, just make sure the coat is clean, dry and brushed out and it will give you a lovely smooth finish. If you want to take the coat shorter you can also use this blade against the growth which will have the same length as a 10# blade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pesh Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Love my Whal KM2, there lighter and fit nicely in the hand, and as mentioned quieter than many others. Depending on the length you need for this dog, 7F for a little length, 5F for the ability to get cream into the skin, or 3F if you need to get cream in and let air hit the skin. Good luck and hope the pooch get better quickly......................soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnauzer Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 I use Andis 2 speed, much quieter than Osters for nervous dogs. Nicestman77 does all my blades and scissors - he does a fantastic job and is amazingly quick with the return mail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirri Ku Posted June 30, 2006 Author Share Posted June 30, 2006 Thankyou everyone. Your advice is much appreciated.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodle3081 Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 The Wahl KM2 is the most popular model with professi0onal groomers throughout Australia. Do not go for Oster, there is not a professional groomer who will touch them as they overheat and use outdated technology. The Wahl clippers are made in Germany and you can pick them up on eBay for under $200. I purchased from Clipper World who advertise here on DOL and they matched the best price I could find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivvy Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Sorry poodlefan, totally disagree here. Im a pro groomer, and alot of ppl I know will still use the Oster. Yes they get hot, but Wahl dont last no where near as long. I can still get parts for mine, but havnt needed any. Again I guess its too each individual. Also I would use size 5 only cause your coats are thicker and I find the blades vibrate and stick. Size 7 or 8 1/2 is the best for your breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poodle wrangler Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 (edited) What type of skin disorder is it? Have shampoos/ conditioners suitable for sensitive skins been any help? Change of diet? Linseed oil/ Fish oils etc.? Fortnightly hydrobaths- is it too much for sensitive skin (sorry, not sure for your situation)? I normally bath my poodle monthly, unless he rolls in something feral. He's an active indoor/ outdoor dog. If possible, trying b4 buying clippers would be good- see if you're OK with clipping. I've recently started clipping our mini poodle and was surprised how time-consuming it is- brush, comb, wash, dry, clip. Clippers need to be oiled often. I don't go shorter than a #5 for the body, #10 for belly. Keeshond would look funny with shaved feet, face and base of tail (#15-#30). Depends on the skin condition, really. Best wishes Edited June 30, 2006 by Poodle wrangler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 The Keeshonds we clip off are purely body,you dont clip the legs as the look is awful & it wont blend with the body. Depending on the condition of the coat we would use a #3.Many Keeshonds whilst having a thick coat are much finer once clipped & in summer you dont want the dog to get sunburnt. Having said that you could also use the clip one combs to still give & nice fuzzy/full appearance . Personally i would get it professionally done ,first time dogs can be a nightmare when they hear the clippers & it must be a posistive experience. We always suggest with our pup owners get it done proffessionally first & atleast get the dog trained,in your case its an older dog & unless its use to standing on table & the full works it can be scary . Many people in the proffessional field i now use oster,we use double K. I suggest you go to places that sell clippers & hold the models ,they do vary alot & comfort is a personal thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicestman77 Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Hi all,Heres the story. One of my dogs ( Keeshond ) has developed a skin disorder. My vet has prescribed a daily dose of Cephalexin 600 ( half tablet twice a day ) and a half tablet of Pred-X 20 every second day. She has recommended that we clip her to keep her coat short to aid in the treatment. So I would like to buy a good clipper that can manage a Keehonds coat without much fuss. Have been spending a lot of time on the net finding out all I can and at the moment I am considering buying a Wahl KM-2 or KM-SS (lowest price so far $220) which I think can handle the job of clipping my Dogs coat. What I need is advice on a good Clipper ( maybe my choice is not the best ?) and what sort of Blade / Size should I use for a Keeshond.. Thanks in advance.. (EDIT Spelling) Hi there "Fluffy Woofers", times have changed Oster have had their day in the pet grooming market in Australia, in their day they were the best for their time, but saying that they where the only good clipper around then , I cut my teeth on them, but these days there are better clippers on todays market with new up to date technology, the motor inside the Osters today are still the old motors of years gone by 25 years old in fact, ask this question to yourself (would I buy new 2006 Holden Commodore with a old grey motor 1954 FJ Holden" in it) your answer would have to be "NO" you are not that silly ;), but still to date the Americans are still selling us Australians their old motors, and we keep buying them. Their are clippers on the market now in Australia with the newest technology, a lot of groomers have given you a lot of good advise about which blades to use, and they are all on the right track . When you decide to buy clippers go, and feel them in your hands first before buying anything it must fit your hand, and you must be happy with your choice as you will have them for a lot of years to come. Oster are heavy & get hot quickly(friction causes heat) , because they still use brass bush bearings on the armature, and all they do every years is change the shape a little and in some cases they change the colour,a very deceptive practice. Oster parts are very expensive to replace, and the Osters have to be serviced, by Oster dealers which charge a arm, and a leg for labour only, not including the part prices. The newer clippers (Wahl,Andis,PetPro-Boss,Laube) on todays market all use ball bearings in their motors, and have less moving parts, and the parts prices are reasonably priced, and if you are a little bit mechanically inclined you can fit the parts yourself, with the advise of the person that sold the parts to you, and you only have to use a screwdrive or two. nicestman77. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirri Ku Posted July 11, 2006 Author Share Posted July 11, 2006 Thank you everyone for your replies.. My wife and I have found your posts very helpful in making our choice.. Well, I have finally done it and bought a set of clippers. We have bought the WAHL KM-2 with a #10 blade and a DVD on how to clip and caring for the clippers. Also comes with Blade attachment combs 5mm, 9mm, and 13mm, Groomers comb and Scissors . Now I need to get advice on blades. This comes with a #10 blade. Would I need any other blades ? The purpose of the clipper is basically to clip the coat of one of my Keehonds who has a skin disorder to help with the treatment of her skin. We do NOT at this time intend on using the clippers on her head / face area. Any advice is much appreciated.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 DO NOT use the #10 on their backs, its far too short, tummy ok, use a #7F which will be short enough for the skin problems, once the skin problems clear then you can go to a #5 which is a longer blade. Please feel free to pm if you need any more help or nervous about the first clip!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vehs Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 A #10 is too short to use on the body, I usually only use a 10 in groin area. If her hair is thin, and free from bulky undercoat you MAY be able to use the comb attachments, but this isn't likely so I would probably look at getting a #7 blade to clip her body in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirri Ku Posted July 12, 2006 Author Share Posted July 12, 2006 Thanks everyone. I have now ordered a WAHL 7F blade and a big bottle of clipper oil for $55. Can't wait to try out my new clippers. This week, Keesie will be getting her clip done by the Grooming Lady and I will be taking notes on how she does it. Oh well, looks like I have to wait a few weeks before I do Keesie myself, But, I can practice on Kosmo when I get the clippers. He has no problems with his skin unlike Keesie. They both sleep in our room during the night and we have the aircon on (heating) during the night so they should not get cold.. Later on when I get the hang of clipping, I might get a 5F blade to use as well. ( I assume the 7F would be easier to use than a 7 blade for a newbie ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 #7F gives the nicer cut. LOL for practice you are better to use a #5!! you can always take more off but cant put it back on. The lower the number blade the longer the cut. So #5 gives a longer cut than the #7F, #10 is short, show poodles normally done with a #30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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