MrsD Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 What's the time frame between a puppy's 1st vaccination & being able to take them out in public safely? I always thought it was 2 weeks but someone said 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 First is normally done at 6 weeks, second at 12 weeks and then it is between 10-14 days after the last shot before you can take them out in public. However there are puppy "schools", which hold socialisation "classes" for youngsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsD Posted June 1, 2006 Author Share Posted June 1, 2006 First is normally done at 6 weeks, second at 12 weeks and then it is between 10-14 days after the last shot before you can take them out in public. However there are puppy "schools", which hold socialisation "classes" for youngsters. Hi Hesapandabear, thanx for that, but if I have to wait until around 2 weeks after his last shot he'll be around 16+2 =18 = 4.5 months old - so how does he start Baby Puppy at 3 months? Or did you mean first or Ive misunderstood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 if you don't want to put your puppy at risk accept the good advice already given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 I wouldn't ever take them out after their first vaccs We did start Eddie at obedience 1 week after his 2nd vaccs though, however we waited until his 3rd to take him to other places, more public places, and when he had his 3rd vaccs we missed a class of obedience as as far as i understand their immune system is down after a vaccs (like us after a flu shot, can get sick, or symptoms at least) We considered it a justifiable risk and we talked to the vet about it before we did it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceilidh Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Most vets will only give two vacc's, first at 6 weeks, second at 12 weeks. At 12 weeks puppy is usually still about 4 days under 3 months, you wait 2 weeks and you can show puppy. It works out to just under 3 1/2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReXy Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 hi there i have a 9 week old puppy and other dogs..i take him with me but NEVER put him on the ground in public places.. he has however been to a friends place when i am 100% sure it is safe... who also has dogs an older and a 12 week old pup.. who i know are vacinated and safe as well. ithink socialisation of young pups is very important.. my club holds puppy classes it is indoor and pups must have had their first vac.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsD Posted June 2, 2006 Author Share Posted June 2, 2006 (edited) Thanx for all your replies, I was completely confused there for a minute cos I misunderstood Hesapandabear's post & thought they had to have 3 shots (did they used to have 3 lots of shots & now its only 2? ) & couldnt work out how shows had a baby puppy class for 3-6 month olds. Ceilidh's reply sorted it - I was sure it was 2 weeks after shots but someone told me 1 week after first shots which sure didnt sound right . Shoemonster & Rexy, I think the public places thing is just plain scary , Im even worried about taking him (& my previous dogs when they were puppies) out if I carry them, I lost a puppy once to parvo (not because of anything I did) & its not nice. Dougie - the only thing I am ignoring is your rudeness . Edited cos I spelt Ceilidh's name wrong ;) Edited June 2, 2006 by MrsD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Dougie - the only thing I am ignoring is your rudeness . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceilidh Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Some still do the three shots, others just the two. I just have two for my puppies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsD Posted June 2, 2006 Author Share Posted June 2, 2006 Some still do the three shots, others just the two. I just have two for my puppies. Ceilidh, thanx for clearing that up, thats why I was getting confused (cos my dogs have had 3 in the past I think) & I didnt read Hesapandabear's response correctly, hence the mix up. Dougie, your comment came across as rude, if it wasn't meant to be, my apologies. I wasnt ignoring anyone's advice, just asking for a clarification on "last" injection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Dougie, your comment came across as rude, if it wasn't meant to be, my apologies. I wasnt ignoring anyone's advice, just asking for a clarification on "last" injection. short precise replies aren't necessarily rude. your first reply was clear, to the point & correct. i don't see any point in trying to improve on good advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Mrs D I am sorry if I put you into a spot of confusion, where I immediately came from, Land of the Long White Cloud, we only ever did the two vaccinations, whilst here it appears to be three. Hope that you have managed to figure it out now. Always with a puppy better safe than sorry, by all means introduce to other puppies or dogs, preferably at your home, when you know the dogs have been vaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsD Posted June 3, 2006 Author Share Posted June 3, 2006 Mrs DI am sorry if I put you into a spot of confusion, where I immediately came from, Land of the Long White Cloud, we only ever did the two vaccinations, whilst here it appears to be three. Hope that you have managed to figure it out now. Always with a puppy better safe than sorry, by all means introduce to other puppies or dogs, preferably at your home, when you know the dogs have been vaccinated. No problems Hesapanda, got it sorted now . Dougie, unfortunately it wasn't clear to me. Some other nice people helped by clarifying it for me, thanx anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripley Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Wait until after the 3rd vacc. A guy I've known most of my life had a lovely GSD pup. Beautiful natured pup. Close to 18 months ago now, pup got out as one of his kids left the gate open. Ended up in a Sydney pound that will remain nameless here. Pup had had 2 vacs, was due for the 3rd one later. Pound rang up friend, his partner came and collected pup. Pup died of Parvo a short time later. Don't take the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyvernblade Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 My pup has only had one vaccination and I take him EVERYWHERE with me! I think that the importance of getting them out and about when they are young far outweighs the risk of them catching something. He's not due for his next shot (12 weeks) until next week but he has been all over the place already. That window when they are learning is so important, and as long as you don't take them to where large numbers of dogs gather (off lead parks etc) then you should be pretty right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 <snip> as long as you don't take them to where large numbers of dogs gather (off lead parks etc) then you should be pretty right. Common misconception... Parvovirus can last a long time in the environment, perhaps as long as 9 months or so. Parvo is shed for the first two weeks or less after infection in the stool of an infected dog but only a tiny portion of infected stool (which could be months old depending on the environmental temperature and humidity) is needed to infect a non-immune dog. Every nine days or so, the antibody levels in a puppy drops by half. It's when the antibody level drops to a certain level, that the pup no longer has enough antibodies to protect them - if they are exposed to a large enough number of viral particles, they will get infected. Canine Adenovirus (canine hepatitis) can be transmitted via direct contact, contaminated objects such as hands, surfaces, clothing, etc., droplet (nasal discharge/urine), and aerosol spread. Leptospirosis/Leptospira bacteria are passed through the urine of infected animals including dogs, wildlife, rodents, and livestock. The bacteria can enter through a break in the skin or when infected urine is ingested. Outbreaks of Leptospirosis infections occur frequently after periods of heavy rain, as the bacteria can be found in standing water, rivers, streams, and ponds. Canine distemper virus is most often transmitted through contact with respiratory secretions. Contact with the urine and fecal material of infected dogs can also result in infection. Canine parainfluenze transmission is usually through airborne respiratory secretions (coughing or sneezing) from an infected dog, but infection can also occur through direct "nose-to-nose" contact or through contaminated hands, dishes, shoes/boots etc. So basically, taking a dog/pup that doesn't have immunity anywhere where other dogs (or dog owners) have walked, can be a risk. I think that the importance of getting them out and about when they are young far outweighs the risk of them catching something. It is probably thought to be a small risk, until you become one of the "minority" who has a pup seriously affected by an infection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veanna Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Can a pup still catch parvo if it doesn't touch the ground? Say if it was carried or if it was just looking out of the window in the car (stopped of course I would never let a dog hang it's head out of a moving car window). I don't want my pup to fall into the minority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norskgra Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 My dogs get the 3 vaccinations and I don't take them out to where other dogs are until approximately 2 weeks after thier third vac. They do go out to puppy school and I will take them to see friends with other dogs that I know for socialising. Missing part of Baby Puppy class at a show is not as important to me as thier health is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 For those people that don't take their puppies out until after the third vacc, how do you adequately socialise your pups? I'm honestly curious as i'm looking at getting another pup soon. My last pup I took out at 11-12wks (I only got him at that age), but I was very cautious until he got his 2nd shot. I will likewise be the same with my next pup - take them out, but not around a lot of dogs etc, until after the 2nd shot. I always thought parvo was transmitted through faecal matter? Is it airborne? Cheers, Amanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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