my_sibe_owns_me Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 My sibe still trys to bit little dogs...I have tryd everything to fix the promble but nothing seems to work! I live with poms and after 2 months she finaly leaves them alone because n ow their part of the pack. But I take her to work (Grooming shop) and she goes after all the little fur balls. Not in a mean way but a play way, but she plays way to hard. She also has a major possession promble that I have been working on. I know sibes are known for their agression but they are also very kind hearted dogs and any advice that will help me bring out the kind hearted dog would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 what methods have you tried. When you take it to work do you crate it, tether or let it run riot? how old and have you begun obedience. Doesnt sound like aggression sounds like a typical dominant sibe puppy to me. The puppy doesnt see you as a pack leader hence the bossing and posession. start here: search this site for Crate Training never feed before yourself or the other dogs no coming up onto furniture or into your bedroom you walk through doors first attention only when the dog behaves or calms down, apart from that completely ignore it keep her on a lead when introducing to other dogs. Make her sit and wait if she plays up she doesnt get to meet the other dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Myschafis~ Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 I know sibes are known for their agression but they are also very kind hearted dogs and any advice that will help me bring out the kind hearted dog would be great. are you serious...sibes are certainly NOT aggresive ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my_sibe_owns_me Posted June 1, 2006 Author Share Posted June 1, 2006 Shes going to be 6 months on the 6th. At work shes on a leash and when shes just to hyper or bad she goes to a crate. Methods: We dont have a problem with who the boss is. The only thing that I fond to works is making her submit to me when she bites other dogs. its the only way I got her to stop bitting our poms. But she still bits the saluki way to hard, she just gets carryd away. Plus she believes that she must be alpha over everyone. If she cant have it then no ones can either whitch we feed and give bones to our dogs sepratly but the toys our all through out the house whitch causes problems sometimes. But now that she is getting older she stops what shes doing when I tell her no but she bolts across the room to get litlte dogs hence the reason she stays on a med leash at work. I want her to mingle with other dogs and she has been intordued to dogs right after she had the last of her puppy shots so I dont understand why she doesnt tolrate other dogs... I have also tried putting rocks in a bottle and shaking it...this didnt fase her one bit. And I crate her when she's bad, this seems to take the edge off of things most of the time. If she has anything and I want it she will give it up to me...but im not sure if that proves whos boss. She loves people and she loves little kids dont get me wrong she very lovable but she just doest do well with dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my_sibe_owns_me Posted June 1, 2006 Author Share Posted June 1, 2006 are you serious...sibes are certainly NOT aggresive ;) Maybe aggresive is not the right word but I believe posessive works for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 you have to explain a little more what do you mean by 'submit' you dont alpha roll do you? this dog doesnt seem to have a lot of obedience or respect training. Try www.leerburg.com for some respect issues. Your dog is not aggressive it just has not been taught enough manners. You have to control the situations, at the moment you seem to be getting to her AFTER she has initiated the rough play or bad behaviour. The trick is to nip it in the bud before it starts. Crating at work would be better or leave her at home as you just promote bad behaviour. I reccomend taking her to a proff trainer, behaviourist or talk to the breeder as you need to understand these dogs a little better before it completely gets out of control. Its nothing really that can be done over a forum properly as we cant see how the dog is actually behaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Myschafis~ Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Maybe aggresive is not the right word but I believe posessive works for her. Hmm seems like a people problem to me...lack of socialisation and correct obediance training as a pup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my_sibe_owns_me Posted June 2, 2006 Author Share Posted June 2, 2006 I dont see how a lack socialisation is her problem. I looked into the breed for a year before I got my pup so I know how importan it is to get her out and meeting people and their dogs. whitch is why I've been taking her to work hoping to get her to mingle nicely with others..but I guess I'll start leaving her at home. And we do have to work on obediance...she stops when I say leave and she stops when I say no. She stays but she doesnt always come....shes very sturborn and storng willed but I love her anyways. I'm going to go look up the web site....thank you, both of you. I'm sure that most of it is because I havnt trained her corretly..but I have never dealt with a sibe before and I have just been trying my hardest to shape her into a well rounded good. Maybe it is the lack of respect... (Thankfully the mastiff, saluki, and pom came out okay but they all have to be hadled differnt ways.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my_sibe_owns_me Posted June 2, 2006 Author Share Posted June 2, 2006 Nekhbet I owe you! Do you know how much that web site is helping? I do most of these things with her already but theres other stuff in there that im almost 99.9% will make her do a 360. Thank you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf82 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Whats wrong with Alpha rolling? out of curiosity? Our huskie is mental, if he gets too out of control he is broken up from play. If after his break he charges back in and trys to be mental, i sometimes grab him and roll him on his back and tell him NO, then let him up. That seems to calm him. He is also like the OP's dog with little dogs, he plays way too rough, trys to nip them and generally be a bastard Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my_sibe_owns_me Posted June 2, 2006 Author Share Posted June 2, 2006 Whats wrong with Alpha rolling? out of curiosity?Our huskie is mental, if he gets too out of control he is broken up from play. If after his break he charges back in and trys to be mental, i sometimes grab him and roll him on his back and tell him NO, then let him up. That seems to calm him. He is also like the OP's dog with little dogs, he plays way too rough, trys to nip them and generally be a bastard Steve YEp sounds like my dog to the T! I also use the roll or just get her to lay on her slide while I lightly apply pressure on the shoulder/neck area. I see nothing wrong with it as long as you can win the battle. whats the differnce from pulling on a lead and cutting off oxgyen than just rolling your dog? I believe rolling the dog works better. But im going to try and stop the bad behavor before it starts so hopfully I wont have to use the roll again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 using the roll is a great way to create fear and anxiety in the dog. If you need that much force to settle your dog you are not working on other areas enough. Its simply fighting with your dog and beleive me the one time you DONT win watch out, or you will get bitten big time. You are not training your dog to respect you, you are doing it through force so its a begrudged acceptance. The challenges wont stop and you will be back and forth your entire lives... not really a good way of living. This is why you guys will see and improvement, regression, improvement, regression. The dog is not given the RIGHT way of doing it from the owner, just a huge freaky punishment so it never learns how to behave. Pretty much the same as choking, a method of people who dont know what they're doing. You are better off removing the dog from the situation, getting it to sit and focus on you. He can play when he settles down. If not ... no more play time. Beleive me, withholding rewards teaches your dog faster then pinning it to the ground when it plays up. Which would you prefer? Also I dont beleive in choking the dog with the lead either. Another wrong thing to do with the check chain, if you have to choke then take a few steps back in your training or GET SOME HELP. Conversely get a pinch collar ONLY if you have a trainer around to teach you how to use it. Remember most dog problems are really people problems - the owners not having the knowledge to deal with the situations as they arise. Training is about teaching yourself, the dog will know what to do but YOU are the one that needs to learn how to get your dog to do it the right way. If you assert yourself as leader of the pack your job will be 1000 times easier. So far if you keep trying to train AND assert you will never train your dog but have an uneasy coexistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my_sibe_owns_me Posted June 2, 2006 Author Share Posted June 2, 2006 See I use the roll because with in the first week of having my pup she latched on to one of are poms over a toy. Of course he screamed and screamed so there really wasnt any other way to make her stop. And she needed a huge no for it but she didnt know the word know but all dogs know they have done somthing wrong when they made to sumbit. But she doesnt fight me when I do it and I only roll her when she does somthing like biting out of means and not play. When I want her to calm down I grab her cheeks and look into her eyes till she chills out and looks away then I crate her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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