KOE Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Oliver has been dropping weight since we came back from the very wet coast at easter but the girls are not. I can see his last 2 ribs and he is getting thinner by the day. Last night he vomited all his tea up in 3 goes he had the same as normal and no one else was sick, I believe he has been steadily losing weight since I put that spot on heart wormer on him. He gets eukanuba with either mince beef or chicken and has since I got him. Tonight I added a small container of yoghurt (strawberry all I had) to it and he has not yet up chucked , but has been burping a fair bit.. He has a very shiny coat clear eyes and reddish gums so I do not think it is worms, he has done nothing but scratch since I put that stuff on him as well. I wont be using it again wether it has something to do with it I do not know. Any ideas Oliver is a 20 month old GSD male. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 If you really feel that it has been purely since you applied the chemical, it may simply have been too toxic for him for some reason. For any kind of chemical overload, try large doses of vitamin c several times daily for some time to help detoxify his system. try some omega 3's in his diet as well to help his skin health. Blood tests at the vet might be of assistance if there is something else wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOE Posted May 3, 2006 Author Share Posted May 3, 2006 Do you give the vc in tab or liquid form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 i don't know about morgan, but i give it as a powder (known as sodium ascorbate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Yep - sodium ascorbate powder is the form I use - the ascorbic acid form is too rough on the stomach, and tablets contain too many fillers etc that also can cause upsets. It tastes salty, so you have to dissolve it in water and syringe it down the throat - try for at least 10 gms a day, divided into several doses, as it doesn't stay in the system for long. The ideal dosage rate is to give it until "bowel tolerance" is reached - when there is looseness of the bowels you know that the system has stopped being able to use it, so cut dosage back a little - this applies to people as well! (AIDS patients can take 200 gms intravenously every day before reaching this level - the body's health dictates how much it needs) As health improves, you will find that the body doesn't need as much, and bowel tolerance will kick in at lower dosages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Could be a thyroid problem... Ollie went the other way, kept putting on weight even though he used to vomit up his dinner... We use Vit C tablets and Ollie has one and a half twice a day... I would be getting blood work done to be sure... Hope he is OK Jodie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorRex Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 was the Heartworm spot-on "revolution'? I ask as it contains Ivermectin relative and it is now known that GSD's, as well as Collies, can be Ivermectin Sensitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOE Posted May 4, 2006 Author Share Posted May 4, 2006 didnt know if I could name it but since you named one I will it is the ADVOCATE, but if it was the ivermectin wouldnt the heartguard tablets do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJack Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Isaviz, maybe it is due to the spot on treatment, I don't know, but please get your dog to a vet for bloodwork soon. Dramatic weight loss might also be due to cancer so get it seen to soon! I hope it is not, but better to be sure. Jo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 If it is cancer, vitamin c MUST be given to bowel tolerance level to give the best chance of survival (along with several other alternatives) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOE Posted May 4, 2006 Author Share Posted May 4, 2006 He is going to the vet tomorrow afternoon regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnauzer Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Isavis, Does your dog have lumps under the skin. If so, I urge you to get vet treatment immediately. Eight years ago, one of my schnauzers had an allergic reaction to Frontline and became very, very ill. After being at the vet and specialist centre for five days he died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pampa Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Oh dear Isaviz, I hope your poor boy is just going through a teenage "ungainly" period and will pick up again real soon... Please keep us updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEARL Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 The only way to determine what the problem is is to have a blood test, could be anything, I don't know but kidney problems comes to mind? hope it's nothing too serious though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOE Posted May 5, 2006 Author Share Posted May 5, 2006 Oliver went to the vet today and he wants to start from scratch with a poo sample, he weighs 35 kg but the vet did say he is thin compared to usual, so tomorrow if the poo sample shows nothing he is getting bloods done. He has a shiny coat reddish pink gums but his rib bones up to the 3rd are protruding. I hope he has a worm problem but I am doubting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fido666 Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 My male dog had recurring bouts of diarrhheoa with occasional vomiting of bile, he was losing weight rapidly despite being on a bland diet (boiled skinless chicken with rice or steamed veggies). An endoscopy was performed and he was found to have Inflammatory Bowel Disease (aka IBD). We worked out the chicken was making him worse so stopped feeding it and switched to beef. He's still thin but is slowly getting better. I hope your GSD has something which is treatable and is soon on the road to recovery . Cheers, Corine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOE Posted May 6, 2006 Author Share Posted May 6, 2006 Faceas tests came back clear no worms or giaurdia, he is putting him on a course of antibotics before testing him for pancreas as one thing the test showed is that his food is not being digested properly. I am cooking him mince with no fat and rice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norskgra Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 I really hope it is nothing serious and that he is back to his normal self soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 (edited) One of my previous dogs lost a lot of weight over a short period of time and the vet diagnosed pancreatic enzyme insufficiency. The food Jedda was eating was not being digested properly and you could see the faeces were coated with a mucous membrane. This is different from pancreatitis, which is an inflammation of the pancreas (and very painful for the dog, I understand). It was trial and error to work out what diet worked and what didn't. Went back to scratch with a pretty bland diet and then started adding our usual ingredients until the sloppy poos started again. The vet also suggested I add a product called Thrive D to her diet - it was a powder, which from memory was supposed to replace the pancreatic enzymes that were dificient? Anyway the Thrive D worked a treat, and the weight regained. Hope your dog is diagnosed soon. Edited May 6, 2006 by Lin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorRex Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 It is called Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency and if the Vet is on the ball and the diet has stuff like Enzyplex added the dog can do quite well. If you can send Holly or Rappie a PM, they are very helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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