Sparty Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 lol you coming up to ballarat saturday to wath all the tollers run in the flyball comp??? should be 3 this time but hopefully 4-5 at the end of the year comp !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted April 3, 2006 Author Share Posted April 3, 2006 Nuh-sorry, obedience stuff to do. Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparty Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 So is Geordie doing flyball? or just obedience & Showing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted April 3, 2006 Author Share Posted April 3, 2006 I'm not sure that I'm interested in running him in flyball- after I see the amount of flyball dogs that visit Michelle Monk for Physiotherapy on a regular basis. He will do agility later on and more possibly retrieving.... Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatevah Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 (edited) With my dogs, I do not compete in Summer months, and I do not attend every training session, this way they get a rest. Seems to be working. I have also taught Moses the swimmers turn. This next comp will be the first in 4 months, not including the Collingwood demo. Forgot to add I also have a demo tape of the Pedigree Superdogs doing a couple of agility demos. Also forgot to add that I don't think every breed is conformation wise suitable to do flyball, such as heavy short breeds, as a lot of stress on legs etc. Also long backed breeds. Edited April 3, 2006 by DunnyBrush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossumCorner Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 ... I don't think every breed is conformation wise suitable to do flyball ... Totally agree - my vets are very anti-flyball, they say it is okay "for fun" but should not be a competetive activity, as handlers then ask too much too often. The same vet is anti lure coursing, treats the "results" - unless it is straight-line like the Jack Russell lure racing. And on the subject of "frisbee" as a dog sport is livid and unforgiving. I'm just bringing Frodo back after a good spell away from racing on hard ground: we'll miss Ballarat but he'll be at Geelong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted April 4, 2006 Author Share Posted April 4, 2006 (edited) It's not actually the sport itself that I dislike it's the way it's played/trained here in Australia. I have heard from other trainers that in America they are recognising that injuries happen because the dogs are so hyped up that the adrenalin blocks the pain receptors. Over there they are practicing a much more controlled style of flyball rather than the dogs being hyped up off their faces. And I can't stand the barking!!!! There's no need for it...we run fast in agility and there is a lot less noise!!! Mel. ETA: The Stafford in my avatar has bad elbow dysplasia and bad patella's so I don't want to go through the heartache again. Edited April 4, 2006 by Staff'n'Toller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloverfdch Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 But then alot of dogs in america/ cananda are running competitions on their first Bdays and are retired by the time they are 4 years old due to injury . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparty Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 depends on your dog Mel, Bodie wont bark in flyball but we are learning agility AND HE WILL BARK THERE!!! LOL in herding i WANT him to bark in crtain situations and he is being a stubbourn shit about it Jen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatevah Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 (edited) My two dogs do not bark in flyball. But if you watch Josh as he is getting ready to run, he stands there with determined expression on his face, I do not really even need to hold him. Then he takes off. I have taught both dogs that they only get released on the word "GO", I always release my dogs when the returning dog jumps over the second jump, so I adjust where I stand. So as the dog before us is running towards the box I say "Ready", when it jumps on the box, I say "set", and when it is coming over the second jump, I say "go". My dogs know exactly when they will be released so need for pent up frustration etc. In training doing recalls over jumps, I always get the person holding the dog to say ready, set, go so they know from the start. Moses though does whine a little at lure coursing. There are other tollers that bark and whine at flyball, but mine doesn't. I think it has to do with training for most dogs. But you have to do the training from start, once it becomes a habit it is hard to break. Congrats on finding Tinny, Rhi!!!!!! I love the way you release Elvis. I have also seen some dogs in agility that bark none stop the whole way through, but not as many as flyball, I don't like barking either in flyball and that what I think turns a lot of people off. Also with my dogs, I will often run them as one dog, so each dog does about half the work of say one dog, I rotate them through. So far Josh is 6 and no need for retirement. I have also heard that in the USA they retire a dog if it runs over 6 seconds!!! Edited April 4, 2006 by DunnyBrush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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