Owned by Shelties Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 (edited) Hi my friends baby sheltie is REALLY REALLY sick he has been sick ever since he had his C4 vacc 2 weeks ago, he is only 18 weeks old. He was very lethagic but eating little had the runs was given antibiotics then was coming good. Th past few days he has turned down hill again very fast the vets have done blood tests and also I think have done some tests on his poo?? DO you think this could be from his vacc? or do you think maybe a blockage? or selmalnela (sorry for spelling) from chicken? he also spent 2 days on a drip... Edited March 10, 2006 by Owned by Shelties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned by Shelties Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 (edited) come on anybody have any ideas this little baby needs all our help... I have just been going over many animal health sites and emailed stuff to friend..... Please I dont usually beg but tonight I am Edited March 9, 2006 by Owned by Shelties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shekhina Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Bird flu hasn't come into Australia yet, so I wouldn't be panicking about that just yet. There's not much you can do except try and keep him hydrated and get him back to a vet. Has anything come back from the test results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned by Shelties Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 I should know more tomorrow we couldnt get hold of our friend tonight we think they may have taken him to another vet? We heard that bird flu had been found in a cat in australia. I was looking at stuff and some of his symptoms sound like leaky gut? has anybody heard of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttaburra Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Don't know much about it, but could it be Corona Virus? He must be kept hydrated until they can find the problem. So sad to hear of the pup being so sick. Wishing all the best for recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned by Shelties Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 Blood tests came back ok, waiting on salamnella tests. vet thinks it may be "Giardia" Has anybody heard of this or know of anybody's puppy that has had this? do they recover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyWild Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 My pup had salmonella when he was just home (possibly from eating chicken) and constantly had the runs. The vets gave us a tablet to give (can't remember name) that reduced fluid loss in the stools, but this only worked temporarily. They also tried us on food product after food product, none of which worked (and probably didn't help with changes of food). I finally changed to BARF and the problem went away almost immediately (even though it was a complete change in food types - not gradual like suggested). If they choose to go BARF best to maybe start off with some cooked white rice mixed with some steamed and blended veggies (carrot, spinach, brocolli, etc) and a small amount of minced meat (potentially cook this to begin with). The most important thing is that the fluids are kept up -vital in a pup with the runs because they loose so much water. Definately keep regular checkups with vet (hopefully the blood test will show something) - and potentially may need a intravenous drip to keep the fluids up if it gets too bad. Giving a pup antibiotics that is already unwell will lower it's immune system even more (but may be necessary to kill the involved bugs), but is important it gets given some good bugs for the gut to compensate for this (probiotics etc). Make sure there aren't any unecessary stresses happening around it so it can concentrate on getting better. Depending on the blood test results, they should be very careful in the future about vaccinations, as some dogs can develop bad reactions that can be fatal. Make sure the dog it in the best possible health if/when you vaccinate next. Do a search on DOL/google and you will find out plenty of info on over vaccinating. A titre test might be the best option. Sending good vibes Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I dont know about a puppy, or a dog having had it, but I do know of someone's cat who had Giardia. The treatment is the same as for humans, Flagyl or fenbendazole (Panacur). It is caused by contaminated water, are your friends on water tanks, or a bore?. They can have the water tested which wil show up bacteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheltiesrule Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Hi OBS That pup is the same age as my Sheltie Kasper I hate to think of such a baby boy being sick....all I can say it that a friend of mine had Giardia from drinking contaminated water on a holiday in country Victoria and she has recovered but it took a while....I think they should ge their water tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 If this pup has been unwell since his vaccination he MUST have the homoeopathic remedy "Thuja" which is used in cases of vaccinosis. Some vets use it, most have never heard of it, but any homoeopath in the yellow pages can provide the remedy, which you can administer yourself. One or two doses of Thuja are often sufficient to start the healing process. Colloidal silver is excellent as well - it kills viruses, fungi and bacteria, as well as helping with internal parasitic organisms. I have used it many times on very sick animals, usually getting a noticeable improvement within 2-4 hours. It has the bonus of absolutely no side effects - one side effect of antibiotics is appetite depression, which can be quite severe. Flagyl in particular has some very serious side effects. Robert McDowell sells colloidal silver and does mail orders all over the world as well as here in Oz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheltiesrule Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 OBS Any news on your friend's Puppy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned by Shelties Posted March 10, 2006 Author Share Posted March 10, 2006 OBSAny news on your friend's Puppy? no not yet will find out more tonight when I get home from work thankyou for asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Look forward to hearing about the puppy and hope all well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottie Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 There was a bit of an 'outbreak' of Giardia around here a few months ago - I am not sure that it is infectious dog to dog but maybe where a number of dogs share the same drinking water they can cross infect each other ? Certainly there seemed to be quite a few who walk in the same park who went down with it round about the same time. I think it is often water carried ? Anyway, although some were pretty sick I think they all recovered so your friend's baby should be OK (though it is always scary when they are little & sick). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fido666 Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 There are so many variables here it's hard to say what caused the illness. OBS you mentioned chicken as a possible culprit, I would not be surprised at all. Chicken goes off very quickly and if not cooked correctly can be a problem. I strongly suspect boiled skinless chook being a major source of my boy's suspected Inflammatory Bowel Disease (still awaiting test results). We were told to feed him bland food every time his ummmm "squirts" started, boiled skinless chicken seemed perfect but now we have found the squirts start every time he has the chicken, he's fine on Hills i/d. Rasberry juice cordial and water can help with Giardia or "scour" but it must be at least 25% juice to have much effect. The internet is not a solution for a proper vet diagnosis though, none of us have seen your friends Sheltie so we are really just guessing. I do hope the little tyke is OK and the problem is sorted soon, little ones can go downhill so fast. Regards, Corine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned by Shelties Posted March 10, 2006 Author Share Posted March 10, 2006 Hi all, Thankyou for all your replies just got home from work and have found out still no word on tests results so hopefully tomorrow. He is eating a little has had no squirts today which is good he even managed a little run around. So will update again tomorrow after work. Once again thankyou ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Glad to hear he is sounding better OBS but could be a number of things. From a gastric bug to eating something he shouldn't have. Just glad that your friends got him to the vet straight away. Little puppies can go down hill very quickly without vet care. Suggest they also do a thorough search of the yard to make sure he hasn't been eating or drinking something he shouldn't. Puppies are like children, they can get into so many things around the place. Hope he recovers quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Hi there Any news on the puppy?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorRex Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Yes we are all worried for this little baby, please pass on an update if you are able too Hugs going their way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned by Shelties Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 Sorry no news on baby yet, I just got home from work and haven't had a chance to call friend my 4 leg kiddies are crying for food. I guess no news is good news... I would assume he's still doing a little better will update post tomorrow after work. If he goes downhill I'm sure she'll call us fingers crossed he's going to improve a little everyday. Cherio and thankyou for all your wishes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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