sheltiesrule Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 My puppy Kasper is 17 weeks and his ears are now pricked...what can I do to make tip again (apart from japenese taping).....one is quite floppy when he runs but the other isn't...He is replacing his puppy teeth at the moment, does this have anything to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebbles Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Teething will play havoc with ears and if they were tipped before hopefully they will go down once he's finished teething. There are things which you can put on the ears to help but I'll leave that to someone else. The stuff I used to use years ago when I had Collies is probably not even obtainable now and I cant remember the proportions to mix anyway, lol. In the meantime, if your pup likes to settle with you on the couch or your knee, just gentle fold the ears where they would normally drop and very gently massage on the fold with your fingers. The more often you can do this the better results. Hope this helps until someone gives you other measures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Hi Sheltiesrule Yes teething will certainly cause problems and you need to be really vigilent. What pebbles is referring to I think is probably 'whiting" . Then there is coacholine, and lanolin anhydrous (wool fat). The best, and it sounds horrible, is engine oil and cement which you mix to a paste. With all of the above apply to the upper 1/3 of the ear both inside and outside and then dust with talcum powder, be careful not to get it in the ear canal. You may need to do this until about 9 months old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebbles Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 That's it Hesapandbear - whiting and ?? oil - olive? parrafin? ? mixed to a paste and put on the inside tip of the ear. Oh boy, that was a lot of years ago lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned by Shelties Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 (edited) Hi Sheltiesrule, Can I say excellent choice of breed I have got a little tri girl (16wks) who is also teething I use Sump Oil and Cement on her ears. I only have ever put this on the inside of Lucy's ears Once a week I usually replace it with new as my other shelties play with her and rough her up... I also am going to try white chalk (footy fields) and glycerine have been told from mum (breeder) that this really works well. It's a matter of keeping on top of this especially while they are teething. Do you have any pictures of your baby?? Good luck let us know how you get on.... Edited March 5, 2006 by sheltielover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fido666 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 A lot of Collie people use Glycerine and talc (me included). I've heard Glycerine is hard to obtain now (some terrorism related reason) but I just bought it from the chemist. At first I tried applying the Glycerine and then the talc, later I found that mixing the talc into the glycerine first (into a paste) was far less messier. With my boy it didn't work but I think I started on him too late. I even tried Val-A fabric glue (available from GoneToTheDogs) after a month of that the ears shot up again after a few days. My baby girl's ears shot up for a couple of days so I was right on it, the Glycerine worked a treat this time. A breeder friend of mine uses the Whiting powder, a specialist hardware store might be able to get this for you. You must stay on top of it, right through teething if needs be. If the ears are well rounded at the tips and of good length you should be able to fix them. Some have said my boy has Sheltie ears, they are quite pointed at the tips, perhaps why they stayed up. Cheers, Corine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Hi pebbles, I too had a senior moment, I could remember the whiting but not what it was mixed with. If my memory serves me correctly whiting is a powder which was used (in those days!!) for sealing wooden window frames, it is a putty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 My sister has tried various things but found the engine oil and cement to wok best. Ask your breeder or see if there is a local sheltie person that can show how much to use and how to apply My sheltie has the opposite problem his earls are too sofy and flop too much apparently but i think he loks cute that way so im not gong to do antyhing about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheltiesrule Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Wow thanks for all the quick replies and great advice. When using the cement how does one remove it from the ears? Also Kasper has very long fur inside the ears should this be trimmed even if I don't try tipping the ears again. I have tried to put a picture of Kasper on but it says its too big...not sure how to condense it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fido666 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Hi Sheltiesrule, Pics must be under 40 kb in size to be posted here. You can use the "Stretch & Skew" feature in Paint (it's under the Image menu) to reduce the size. If you can't work it out you can email the pics to me and I'll shrink them for you (I'll PM you my email address). Cheers, Corine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorRex Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Don't trim the ear hair at this stage as this helps weight the ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheltiesrule Posted March 7, 2006 Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 Thanks for the advice but no one has mentioned how to remove the product from the ear...does if fall off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned by Shelties Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Hi the sump oil and cement just falls apart, this is how I usually judge whether lucy needs some more. How Have you been going with Kasper's ears?? Have you been able to do photo yet? you can pm me a photo if that's easier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Sorry I havent been checking, as sheltielover said it will just fall off, alternatively you can comb it out with talc and a flea comb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgie_cat Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Hey guys! Sorry to bring back an old thread! Lana (my sheltie) came from her breeder at 9 1/2 months old with chewing gum attached to her ears to weigh them down > it worked but now it has fallen off the ears have just popped back up again! LOL... doesnt really matter since i wont be showing her and she is still just as cute > but i was just wondering ... if i did want to do something about it > is 11 months too old? I assume she must not have had the gum on as a baby since it hasnt worked very well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fido666 Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Hi Bridgie, I tried the chewing gum thing with Duncan, I think it was the worst thing I could have done. The weight of the chewy causes the muscle to strain in response, it just makes it stronger. If your Sheltie has finished teething than it might be too late. Try some of the techniques here plus massaging the ear where it would normally fold, the trick is to keep the ear leather supple. Good luck! Corine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShesaLikeableBiBear Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Generally speaking yes 11 months is too old, whether or not she is a pet, shelties look so much better with their ears tipped so in principle I would keep the weights on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Might not have been chewing gum but bluetack. But Corine is right, you have to be careful that you are not making the muscle work to lift the tip. I use either the sump oil & cement powder or the glycerine & powder. To get the oil & cement out, gently comb out with a fine tooth comb and then pat some fullers earth into where the oil was. Wait a few minutes & then comb again. The fullers earth takes out the oily residue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned by Shelties Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Hi Bridgie, I was using sump oil and cement on Lucy's ears whilst she was teething i have now gone to using glycerine and powder I have found this is working far better than the sump oil. I do agree shelties do look far better with their ears tipped. Lucy is now nearly 7 months old and I still apply glycerine and powder to her ears at least once a week. Good luck and let us know how you get on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgie_cat Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Glycerine and cement powder? I mite give it a try > but she is still VERY cute with her pokey up ears so i wont care if they stay ... By massaging the ear > is this like folding it and rolling it between your fingers?... Thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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