hannos Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I've managed to acquire a full leg of ham and there's no way my partner and I will get through it. Are there any negatives to feeding my staffie some ham in his diet along with his regular food? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibear Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 (edited) Hannos - I don't know what you usually feed your dogs but I'm sure my boy has eaten ham before for treats and loved it I was going to ask the question today re: the bone from the christmas ham - Is that ok to give also? ETA - it won't be a cooked bone! Edited December 19, 2005 by Alibear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannos Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 he generally eats raw chicken necks, dry dog food, leftovers from our dinner... anything and everything lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norskgra Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 (edited) Feeding ham and pork to dogs is dangerous. Feeding tidbits of ham and pork can cause serious tummy upsets or even pancreatitis, requiring an emergency trip to the vet. Edited December 19, 2005 by norskgra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannos Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 he generally eats raw chicken necks, dry dog food, leftovers from our dinner... anything and everything lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibear Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Feeding ham and pork to dogs is dangerous.Feeding tidbits of ham and pork can cause serious tummy upsets or even pancreatitis, requiring an emergency trip to the vet. Are you serious? Bear has never had a lot of ham, more cabanossi then anything, but he has never been sick from it. I really didn't know it was a bad thing. I remember growing up and my mum and dad putting tablets for my old dog inside peices of ham to conceal it. He was never sick either. What about pigs ears? Wouldn't that be the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norskgra Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 There have been several acticles written about feeding dogs ham especially at Christmas. I got that info from Petralia. I don't feed my dogs ham or pork but they do get the occasional pigs ear as a treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugar Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Ham and bacon contain too much fat and too much salt, and can cause pancreatitis. Also, large breeds of dogs that eat salty food may drink too much water and develop a life-threatening condition called bloat. This is where the stomach fills up with gas and within several hours may twist, causing death. http://www.lacetoleather.com/fataltodogs.html Common Foods That Are Harmful Or Even Fatal to Dogs Many common foods are actually harmful or even fatal to dogs. Some of these (listed below) will surprise you. Others are things you would never give your dog purposefully, but now you will be more careful to not let them be in your dog's reach. And some just need to be limited to small amounts. Avocados (fruit, pit, and plant) are toxic to dogs. They can cause difficulty breathing; fluid accumulation in the chest, abdomen and heart; or pancreatitis. Onions destroy red blood cells and can cause anemia, weakness, and breathing difficulty. Even small amounts can cause cumulative damage over time. This includes onions or chives - raw, powdered, dehydrated, or cooked. Large amounts of garlic cause the same problems as onions. Grapes and raisins can cause kidney failure in dogs. As little as a single serving of raisins can kill him. If the dog doesn't eat enough at one time to be fatal, he can be severely damaged by eating just a few grapes or raisins regularly. Tomatoes can cause tremors and heart arrhythmias. Tomato plants and the most toxic, but tomatoes themselves are also unsafe. (All parts of the plant except the tomato itself are also poisonous to humans.) Nutmeg can cause tremors, seizures and death. Caffeine (from coffee, coffee grounds, tea, or tea bags) stimulates the central nervous and cardiac systems, and can cause vomiting, restlessness, heart palpitations, and even death within hours. Diet products containing the sweetener Xylitol can cause a sudden drop in blood sugar, resulting in depression, loss of coordination and seizures. Unless treatment is given quickly, the dog could die. Macadamia nuts can cause weakness, muscle tremor and paralysis. These symptoms are usually temporary. Walnuts are poisonous to dogs. Chocolate can cause seizures, coma and death. Baker’s chocolate is the most dangerous. The darker the chocolate, the more dangerous it is. But any chocolate, in large enough amounts, can kill a dog. An ounce of chocolate can poison a 30-pound dog, and many dogs will happily consume more than this. The symptoms may not show up for several hours (and so might make you think all is well), with death following within twenty-four hours. A dog can consume milk chocolate and appear to be fine because it is not as concentrated, but it is still dangerous. Apple seeds, cherry pits, and peach pits, pear pips, plums pits, peaches, and apricot pits contain cyanide, which is poisonous. Too much salt can cause kidney problems. Also, large breeds of dogs that eat salty food may then drink too much water and develop bloat, which is fatal unless emergency treatment is given very quickly. Too much fat or fried foods can cause pancreatitis. Ham and bacon contain too much fat and too much salt, and can cause pancreatitis. Also, large breeds of dogs that eat salty food may drink too much water and develop a life-threatening condition called bloat. This is where the stomach fills up with gas and within several hours may twist, causing death. Raw liver or too much cooked liver (three servings a week) can lead to vitamin A toxicity. This can cause deformed bones, excessive bone growth on the elbows and spine, weight loss, and anorexia. Check the label of your canned dog food to be sure that it does not contain liver if you are giving your dog liver also. Wild mushrooms can cause abdominal pain, drooling, liver damage, kidney damage, vomiting, diarrhea, convulsions, coma, or death. Raw egg whites contain a protein called avidin, which can deplete your dog of biotin, one of the B vitamins. Biotin is essential to your dog’s growth and coat health. The lack of it can cause hair loss, weakness, growth retardation, or skeleton deformity. Grains should not be given in large amounts or make up a large part of a dog’s diet, but rice is generally safe in small amounts. Cooked bones can splinter and tear a dog’s internal organs. Dogs can't digest most vegetables (carrots, green beans, lettuce, potatoes or yams) whole or in large pieces. Potato peels and green potatoes are dangerous. Dairy products are high in fat, which can cause pancreatitis, gas and diarrhea. A small amount of non-fat, plain yogurt is usually safe. Pennies made from the 1980s to today contain zinc, which can cause kidney failure and damage to red blood cells. A dog that consumes even one penny can become quite sick, or even die, if the penny is not removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinay2 Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 The problem with feeding particularly large quantities of fatty leftovers such as ham and turkey to dogs at xmas is the high percentage of cooked fats. Dogs - and particularly dogs fed a mostly commercial food diet and/or a diet that is relatively unvaried - may react to this high fat overload and it may result in a bout of gastric upset or even pancreatitis. How much a dog can tolerate will vary from dog to dog. It is best however, if you are going to give a treat of xmas ham or turkey to keep it in moderation, and if the dog is not used to much change inits diet in particular stick with very small portions of the non fatty parts only. Ham is also high in salt, so you need to be wary of that. The ham bone should be fine provided it is a RAW ham and NOT a cooked one. If it is a cooked one, throw it out or freeze it for use later as a base for some great pea and ham soup. Ham and turkey can make good training treats, so cut it up small if you have leftovers and perhaps use it that way (similar to the way I use BBQ chook which makes EXCELLENT bait for the show ring ). In summary, assess your dog and keep all things in moderation. Better to space out the treats throughout the year rather than provide one big one at xmas time that may do more harm than good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buster's Mum Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Feeding ham and pork to dogs is dangerous. That doesn't include raw pork mince does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfie lover Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 we gave our dog pig 2 trotters, and he got really bad pancretitius (sp) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyking Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 My dogs get pork, raw on a regular basis. We have never had any problem but do not feed really fatty meat. Hocks/trotters,mince are all regular dishes on our menu. Alibear, why do you say your ham bone will not be cooked? Are you cooking the ham yourself and boning it out first? If you have a ham from the shops they are cooked already as a rule. Personally I'd b a bit careful of feeding the ham bone as I think they may be a bit too fatty but have done so over the years without any problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy beagle lady Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Avocados My little guy has been known to have a little avocado Thank you for posting- Ava no more. I knew most of the other food groups were a No, No but not the Ava. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibear Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Alibear, why do you say your ham bone will not be cooked? Are you cooking the ham yourself and boning it out first? If you have a ham from the shops they are cooked already as a rule. Hmmmmm Ok, didn't think about it that much really. My boss just said to me, I have a raw ham bone for Bear if you want it. That's where my question came from and my thinking stopped really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel 45 Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Uncooked pork can contain spores of some very dangerous gut disease. Dunno if it's salmonella, can't remember sorry. Pork has to be well cooked or else it can cause severe stomach problems (in humans and I assume dogs too). Bit succinct as feeling unwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel 45 Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Uncooked pork can contain spores of some very dangerous gut disease. Dunno if it's salmonella, can't remember sorry. Pork has to be well cooked or else it can cause severe stomach problems (in humans and I assume dogs too). Bit succinct as feeling unwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffyluv Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 (edited) Just for the record - Ham is cooked meat, it has been cured... So that means that the bone in a ham is a cooked bone - not good for pooch's... Jodie ETA: I feed pork to Ollie from time to time and have never had a problem.. I have offered him ham, but he does not like it... Edited December 21, 2005 by Staffyluv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buster's Mum Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Hang on... one of the varieties of BARF patties are made with pork so surely it can't be that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyking Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 (edited) Hang on... one of the varieties of BARF patties are made with pork so surely it can't be that bad? No, Buster's Mum, You are correct IMO there is nothing wrong with feeding pork, however, I would only feed human grade and inspected pork. I have raised litters of pups on minced pork many times and fed it to my adults etc over a period of 30+ years and not had any problems. Once again it is a personal choice but unfortunately many people listen to too many urban myths. Chicken also carries bacteria like salmonella but I would suggest chicken is the most popular raw meat fed to dogs today! Yes, I dare say pork CAN cause problems but then so can everything else in life. CAN does not mean it automatically DOES JMHO Edited December 20, 2005 by curlyking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buster's Mum Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Thanks Curlyking. I was starting to worry then remembered the pork Barf patties I have in the freezer. I buy all my boys meat from Woolies or Coles in the human meat section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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