dogdayz Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Must be, he looks a lot smaller than he does in the flesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herding_guy Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 Thank you everyone. I've been working so hard I haven't had time to check DOL. The photos are great (the captions are even better :rolleyes: ) I had a great time with all of you on Sunday, can't wait for the next one. Now everyone work on those sits, stops and informal recalls before next month. Cheers, David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparty Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Yup Fox is a huge kelpie!!!! im trying to work an argument for having sheep at home LOL problem is then we would have to get decent fences :rolleyes: So anyone enthused enough to come to the herding instinct trial at lancefield?? we could have a DOL meet there and watch the entertainment 31/12/05, Bodie is trying for his herding test, some moral support would be great And it is enter on the day if you feel brave enough!! LOL my sister says he looks evil in this pic.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdayz Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Do you know if there is a pretrial on that day Sparty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparty Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Dunno i think it was just instinct and herding test, i hate it when they split them up, like southerns pretrial & above i think in october :rolleyes: i had to wait until end december there are not so many trials held anyway then they do that *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdayz Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 (edited) So true - i think there is pretrial in March but i hadnt checked December. By the way Sparty - best of luck, but i suspect you wont need luck :rolleyes: Edited December 14, 2005 by dogdayz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparty Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 lol Bodie will be up for it ... me however i can use all the luck u want to send :rolleyes: where is the pretrial in march? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdayz Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Not sure working from memory, Beck ate the obedience rule book, agility rule book, herding newsletter a few nights back. Didnt eat the Tracking newsletter though...maybe he is sending me a message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopenfox Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Hey, Sparty, if it's not too hard to find, I wouldn't mind coming to watch and maybe enter Fox...How much will it cost?...what time should I get there?...where in Lancefield? Are the details in one of the Vic Dog magazines? Or somewhere else? I really want to come! And where on the internet can I read VCA Herding rules? Is it Herding Instinct Test (2 passes?), Herding test (how many passes?), and then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjk05 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 2 HIC tests, then 2 HT (Herding Test) passes, then 2 PT (Pretrial) test passes. Then trials! I think this website has most of the stuff you're after:Vicherding and the full rules are on ML's website: Herding Rules I think most dogs can do the levels up to an including PT without much/any training, as long as they will stop and recall. I have friends whose dogs had seen sheep once before their first ANKC herding test day, and had no exposure to sheep at all in between the test days (HIC-PT). Have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KismetKat Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Now everyone work on those sits, stops and informal recalls before next month. an "informal" recall? Is that coming back but without sitting at the handlers knees? Also is the term 'sit' used differently? And i've not used the word 'stop' in any training so far. Perhaps someone who's been before can explain some of the peculiarities of herding work. Loved all the pics btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparty Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 it will depend on the dog obviously, lol dont want to say too much or something that could be taken in a disparaging way, but i felt much better about going into the instinct test after watching some of the other dogs in started and even intermediate ..... Besides if you never try you will never know it is pretty easy to find Hopenfox bendigo to lancefield the road you come in on takes you right past the grounds (on the right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tassie Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 (edited) Hey Sparty - I'll be in the Melbourne area, and I'd sort of pencilled in going to have a look at the Lancefield thing. So you're going to be there on New Year's Eve? I'll PM you about details. Don't think I'll enter Miss Kirra - she does have her HIT, but would probably be DQd for teeth flossing Maybe I should bring her documents anyway. I'm a VCA member as well as a TCA member, so should be no problems there. Barb ETA Bodie looks great in that shot - wish Kirra would keep good distance off her sheep. Edited December 15, 2005 by Tassie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparty Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 I think it is $10 @ run for instinct, and $20 for herding test hope a few more DOL'ers come take some bikkies & cheese and stuff nice shady trees there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Ive been practising recalls stop and sit and we did do some direction work more for me to practise hand signals and get used to the commands i want to use around + clockwise and Back+ anti clockwise only because i use over for jumping so if i said that he would jump on the sheep lol Informal recall to me is come to me and stay close enought for me to touch and hold collar no front though cnnor usually sits anyway Stop means that stop moving i get a drop or stand when i say stop but am happy with eiter so long as he stops where he is I teach stop and slow together on our walks sit is to sit but the dog can be away from you not sure why we need stop and sit and drop i guess stop could be just to stop fr a second whereas sit for stability and drop for extra control Dave is that anywhere near right yb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparty Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 After going to the Bernard Arends seminar i switched to LEFT and RIGHT lol a hell of a lot easier to remember i dont have to draw H & B on the back of my hands to remember HERE & BEHIND i use BACK to get him to back off and STEADY to come in slow, IN to well, come in hehehe and GET IN to get in between the sheep and the fence OUT to get some more distance tho Bernard said if he is going right another RIGHT should push him out further (once he is trained better LOL) but for now use it when he is cutting in too much or threatening to cross me Looking forward to seeing you Barb!! they will have herding test there so Kirra could start on her next leg? I hope u can come to lancefield YB, would love to see Conner the mighty at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Lol lancefield is along walk Nah wont be going that far from home though it would be a challenge t have him ready in two weeks to do his instinct test lol he stil has to get the sheep moving without help froma big tough kelpies lol We are aiming for the instinct test at the start of march i think southerns running it but we will train towadr the next level whatever that entails. Im big on setting challenges for myself so the challenge is to get his first tite ht i think before the start of August. Hear that Dave im planning a few tripe to your place i think yb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparty Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 I went sunday week ago about 7.30am before it got stinking hot 6am start from home tho i might try and get there again before chrissy for a few hours if i can talk dave into it, lol timed right i can get 3 hours in and be back in time to make hubby breakfast in bed LOL, well maybe brunch and still have most of the day to spend with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Maybe we could meet up there one weekend im hoping for new years day lol but i think the week after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparty Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 well it is something to think about ,instinct test i wouldnt think Conner would have any problems with, then you could concentrate on herding test (getting them to kinda go where u want them LOL) for southern, i hope to do Bodie's 2nd herding test ... or (dreaming) pretrial hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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