Owned by Shelties Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Hi Meg Ed, I know how your feeling as Staffy-Lover says it does come and go.. What and how much is your puppy on? My Angel Annie was on 37.5mg pb twice daily and 175mg kbr twice day.. she wasnt coping on this and was told to up her dosage but I chose not to thats when I took her to melbourne he said her meds was really high. Apparantly the levels (numbers ) dont mean much to vets????? Annie didnt take to well with the med changes she seem really dazed and confused and very wobbly all the time... I dont mean to make this sound harsh cause all dogs react differently to meds.. it's all about finding the theraputic range for you pet.. Just remember we are all here if you need a chat or shoulder to cry on. Take care and keep us updated. Hope it all works out for you Sheltielover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meg_Ed Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 Hey sheltielover! Ed weighs 11kgs and he's on 25mg of pb twice a day. I got home from work yesterday and he was a little brighter.Although it only lasted an hour or so, then it was nap time.Hopefully things will subside in another week or so if not i'll speak to the vet.At the moment he's not even up to a walk.He loved going for his run in the park at the moment he strolls around a bit, then heads back towards home as if to say" i tired now mum". Thanks to all for you help will keep you posted. Cheers Megs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Shepherd mom Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Megs, when my vet first put Casper on Pb she warned me he'd be wobbly for about 2 weeks (as well as a ravenous appettite and increased thirst). This boy WOULD not sit still. He swayed after me wherever I went and always looking for food which is totally not him! Despite being unable to walk straight, after 3 days on pb he was at his favourite place - the back fence, where he still managed to play chase with the dog next door. After the first week he was perfectly fine although still hungry! What I'm saying is, different dogs react differently but Ed will be back to normal before you know it! Let us know how you go! Sheltielover, it's great to see you still writing in this topic. I hope you are feeling better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffy-Lover Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 hi guys, yeh it took my pup about 1 wk to be able to walk straight and about 2-3 wks before he was bright and chirpy. each dog is different though.. but he will come good. my pup is 30kgs and was started on 100mg so 25mg for an 11kg dog is fine, infact still low. keep us updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Sorry to say but he will never be completely as he was and will always have one or two character changes that only you may be aware of but they will be there. As you have been advised, his dosage is quite low and so there is no need to worry and he will get used to it. Be patient. Each time the dose is increased it will be the same..... when it gets to the levels of my Monte, then he will ALWAYS be kind of lethargic. It is sad. We are of to a specialist in Feb with Monte as he is still clustering and has developed facial tics as well. Monte is only 8.5 kgs but is on 400mg Bromide and 75mg of Pheno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonni Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 hello, i was so desperate to write so i havent had time to read all the previous posts, but PLEASE PLEASE LEARN EVERYTHING ABOUT EPILEPSY AS IT CAN KILL YOUR DOG!!!! sorry to scare you but i lost my 5 year old dog last year to a very bad seizure, the way i lost her was mainly due to not knowing how to keep her cool, she was on medication and very rarley had seisures, but one night she had one that she just couldnt come out of, and she went into acoma as her temp rose to 42 degreez as her body was so stressed and she really struggled to breath, at one point she stopped breathing and was rushed to emergency, i had been speaking to an unfamiliar vet helping on the phone but as he didnt know her history i dont think he knew how serious things were. but she was way over being helped her brian was not reponding, what killed her was not knowing everything about it, what i would do is stay with the same vet and only get the best and most experienced one to support and guide, you, so from what i have learnt you must keep you dog calm, cool and in a dimly lit room when having a sezuire, also some dogs like to be held and craddled like my dog it made her comfortable, and also she may have been blind during seizures were not sure, if you see your dog not come around after 15mins take them straight to a vet. also if you know your dog suffers seizures make sure you keep you yard and house safe, eg pool ponds anything they can fall int on band into also things where they may jamm them selves in to like between kennles on anywhere maybe a death trap, as they may have a seizure when your out. please ask me anymore questions if you want i'm only happy to help, i dont want anyone else loosing a speical friend like i did. r.i.p dipXXXXX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheena8860 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Hi, firstly I would like to thank you all for your stories. We have a French Bulldog (Boris) who has just been diagnosed with epilepsy and its a pretty scary thing when its happening. He has been started on 30mg of Phenomav, twice a day and did go 12 days without a seizure, but yesterday he had another two 5 hours apart, so I think the dose may have to be changed. Normally he's a happy little dog who we love to bits, so we were so worried he would have a seizure while we were not at home, which up to now has not happened. But after reading your stories I feel like once we've got the drug side under control he could live a normal kind of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned by Shelties Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 HI Most dogs you will find will have a normal life, well close to normal.. its just a matter of getting the theraputic level. With my Angel Annie i noticed with her pattern in "S" she always had them in the morning 5.30am-10am. Mainly it was at 5.30am when she was due for her meds. It is a really scary thing to see and I feel for you all who are dealing with this horrible desease. Good luck and be sure to keep us posted. Although I lost Annie a few weeks ago Im always watching over this post. Cherio Sheltielover and Angel Annie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meg_Ed Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 (edited) EDDIE UPDATE!!!! Ed's been brighter over the last couple of days Thought i would share this funny story with you all..... My housemate has a cat and we keep his food on the kitchen table (we don't use it for ourselves)On monday night the housmate got home and let Ed in and went about her business.A little while later she heard a noise coming from the kitchen,so she went to investagate......There,she find Edward(his in trouble name) sitting on one of the chairs with his front feet in the table pulling at the table cloth trying to pull the cat food to him. He's gone from picky eater to thief in a week Megs Sheltie lover was so sad to hear about Annie Edited January 18, 2006 by Meg_Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffy-Lover Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 (edited) hehhe, megs i have a similar story. we have cats and keep their food up on a round mushroom table. one night i was in the office and hear a big BANG and ran out to find the table up ended with food everywhere. Thought my fatso cat must have tipped it over as it is not that stable. cleaned up and put things right. next minute i hear the noise again, run out to find my 30kg staffy standing ON the table eating the cat food hehehehehehe Caught red handed ! Good to hear that pup is feeling better and looking brighter, as puggles said he is not on that high a dose so hopefully he will come good soon. Sonni - sorry to hear your sad story BUT it is a good warning to all to have an emergency plan. Meg, if puppy cluster seizures you need to keep puppies temperature down or his vitals could boil. I use an ice pack on the back and in the pressure spots. I also use a cool towel and a fan if i can get them in ahurry. and ice cream to eat or iceblocks when he comes out of it. If he goes into status (doesn't stop seizing) you need to get him to a VET without hesitation. YOu should discuss an emergency plan with your vet and have it written down so if he is not available and u go to a strange vet you can demand that action. Know your 24 hour vet location. etc But - remember many dogs live long healthy lives with epilepsy. So don't stress too much. Update us when you can. Sheltielover - that is a gorgeous picture hope all is well Edited January 18, 2006 by Staffy-Lover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonni Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 thanks staffy lover, we all miss dippy very much, everyone was shocked that we lost her just over night, it broke our hearts as she was a very very special sweet puggy girl. she had the most sweatest soul ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Hi Sonni, I notice that you say that your epi was a Pug? Was she papered? I am always on the look out for any genetic links and my Pug, Monte, is from a breeder in Victoria. The first thing we do when Monte starts a cluster is to switch on the air con.... we results in me and the other Pugs shivering our heads off but it keeps Monte's temp down. My biggest fear is that Monte will die in the middle of a cluster. He can have up to 6 seizures within 60 minutes. It can be very scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned by Shelties Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Hi All, As i have noticed reading over these posts, I was told from a vet that you can't lose a dog while they are having "S"???? is this right or is this vet wrong??? I always worried bout this when Annie was home alone, even thought she was a morning "s" I would often leave her at mums so somebody was with her.. She always liked to be cuddled, and I would have to YELL her name so she would come out of the "S".. which she always did.. I used to always find her out the back in her favourite part of the garden in the sun, so I mad sure it was nice and clear for her... I really do feel for you all and hope that this new brain surgery is going to get passed and other people can benefit from this. My Annie didnt make it as you all know but there is 3 dogs that have and have all been "S" free.. and that been over 4 weeks for the first dog. Take care and hope some "S" free days,weeks,months ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 You can most certainly lose a dog during a seizure. Primarily by two means - overheating and heart attacks. During a seizure the dog's heart races at an incredible speed and puts the organ under a huge stress load. The dogs temperature also increases because of the increased heart rate. Your vet was majorly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidoney Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I've not read the whole thread, but some pages of it, just wanted to say that my epileptic Cattle Dog girl lived until she was 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonni Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 (edited) yes puggles my dippy was a pug, i got her at about 10 months old, and i noticed her acting weird at times like when she got frightend or something startled her like a dog jumping on her ect, little things, and she would start to shake and get very puffed out, so we just reassured her she was ok, and she was fine, and we just put it down to just being a more sensitive dog, then a few times it was much worse and she started to knock into walls and she was walking like she was drunk and she couldnt recognize where she was, she was very confused, so i took her to the vet a few times explaining this and i was saying something is wrong with her, but as they couldnt see anything physically wrong, they said maybe she is getting over heated, i said how when this happens on a freezing day???? anyhow one day she had a very bad seizure and i picked her up and she was thrashing madly and i could barely hold her she was very strong and it was violently scarey, i thought she was chocking dieing couldnt breath we didnt know what was happening, my brother got in the car with me and we speed about 100kms in a 60 zone, we made it to the vets and they were there thank god doing after hours surgery, and they took my dog in i was crying a screeming i dont know what is wrong please help, anyhow they said to me she has epilepsy, and we put her on meds, she was doing really well for about 12 months and was having a episode about every 4 months but we noticed they were a long time apart but they were getting very bad they would carry on for hours and she wasnt her self for a long time after, this happend the last two times, i took time off work to look after her as i was worried it would happen again when i went to work, anyhow sadly the third bad was the end and she couldnt be revived, and her little body was very over heated and she wasnt responding at all when the doctors tried to take her off the sedative coma, she would just fall back into a sezuire and by the end of the night her body was struggling so much the vet said he had to put her down, so so sad. if only i had known to put her in a freezing cold bath she we probably would of saved, her by bring her temp down. but we just didnt know and by the time the vet put her in a ice bath, too much damage was already done to her little brain. DIPPY http://images.faces.com/io/302933.jpg Edited January 18, 2006 by sonni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheena8860 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Hello, I was wondering if any of you had tried the natural remedy for epilepsy and if it would be worth giving it inconjunction with the phenobarbitone. Could you please tell me once you got your pets medications right how often do they fit now and are they still grandmal seizures or do they just get twitches. Thanks alot Sheena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffy-Lover Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 hi sheena, i am still in the progress of trying to get the seizures under control so can't help unfortunately. But many on the k9epilepsy site have had varying degrees of control depending on the individual dog. Sidoney - that is great news and gives us lots of hope that pup lived to 16 thankyou. Puggles - geeezzeee 6 seizures in an hour !!!! God you must be a nervous wreck. My pup currently has clusters about 5 but spaced about an hour apart. thankgod and that nearly sends me into panic. God i hope your pup finds better control really soon. Sheltielover - I can't wait to hear how successful the operations have been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Puggles - geeezzeee 6 seizures in an hour !!!! God you must be a nervous wreck. My pup currently has clusters about 5 but spaced about an hour apart. thankgod and that nearly sends me into panic. God i hope your pup finds better control really soon. And this happens on an average of every 12 days. :rolleyes: Monte's seizures had been under control for almost 2 years. He was originally clustering, we revisited his meds, timings and food and he had only 4 seizures in over 18 months.... then approx 3 months ago he started to cluster again and now, as I said, clusters every 12 days on average. We are off to a neurologist (sp?) in Feb.... terribly expensive but I am so worried we will lose him otherwise and I hate seeing him so dosed up on meds. :D Sheena, every dog is different. When we thought Monte's meds were right he had no twitches or seizures..... now he is on much higher doses and still has seizures and has developed constant facial tics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 yes puggles my dippy was a pug, i got her at about 10 months old, DIPPY http://images.faces.com/io/302933.jpg Was Dippy from a registered breeder? Was he papered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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