Staffy-Lover Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 puggles, if u r in sydney, there is a neuro specialist at sydney university that spec in epilepsy called richard malik who u might be interested in seeing gosh, i hope you find the key to being seizure free v soon all my best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meg_Ed Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Iam hoping to get a few idea from you guy s with epi pups here are my posts from Poor Eddie post earlier today.Sorry if i rambled i just very worried 1st post; I just had the worst weekend (and most expensive) in a long time. Got home from dinner sat night about 9pm to a very sick dog.He was vomiting and would't drink.As the night went on he got worse and started to tremble.Rang My vet emergency number an she told me to take him the 24hr vet Hospital.I did the mad dash at 3.30am they put him on a drip.I had to pick him back up at 9am and take him to my vet,with the blood samples they had taken.(this my vet and I do not understand)when the blood was finally tested he was suffering a bad case of gastro. The reason my vet wanted me to go to the 24hr vet hospital was to have a diagnosis made before morning and treatment started sooner rather that later.As she would not have access to labs till day time.I am pretty miffed as i paid $360 for him to be there from 4.30am till 9am and still no wiser as to what was wrong. So he's at the vets hopefully he can come home tonight all going right. Poor little fella he's had a rough few weeks( and i had a expensive few weeks ) Cheers Megs 2nd post; Vet just called.He's not a happy camper and his temp gone back up so there gonna take -rays now. 3rd post; Spoke to the vet again.They gave him a bit of chicken and he vomited it up.They can't see anything abnormal in the x-rays ,their leaving him a the drip overnight and seeing how he is tomorrow morning.They ruled out pancreatitis yesterday as his enzime(sp) levels were normal.His white blood count was very high so he's fighting something.Iam wondering if maybe an ulcer as he started Phenobarbitol for epilepsy 10 days before all this.I know he'd be so miserable being there .And iam still none the wiser as to whats wrong. They said yesterday the PB is not likley to be the cause this is just an as well problem Megs :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Shepherd mom Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I stumbled across these links if anyone is interested in having a look: http://www.allergicpet.com/products/seizur...leSeizureAdWord http://www.epilepsyhealing.org/ I haven't had a good look yet so can't say what's on them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Hi Meg Ed, I am on your vets side. The ulcer would have to be bad to be creating the symptoms you have stated. I am no expert but I have not heard of pheno causing ulcers anyhow.... but I am happy to stand corrected on this. Perhaps his seizures are not epilepsy but are linked to the symptoms he is now experiencing???? I hope he is ok. Please keep us updated with his progress. My thoughts are with you. WhiteShep - I firmly believe that medicine should remain the biggest part of treating ailments in dogs, particularly those with life threatening potential such as epilepsy and therefore would not touch either of those two recommendations on the websites you have listed with a barge pole. IMO it is best left to the experts to determine the cause and treatment and natural medicines should only be used as an adjunct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffy-Lover Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 yeh i am with the vet, the only way i think the pb could be the cause is if it went toxic but you said the blood levels were fine. i'm also with puggles on the thought that maybe the seizures are linked to the vomitting and maybe not epilepsy - have you seen a neurologist? if not i would suggest this, just incase there is something more sinister... re the vet bills - i know how you feel i had to go to a 24 hr vet once when my pup split her eye open and it cost $150.00 just to walk through the door then the medicince and treatment on top of that,,,, can be expensive !! i wouldn't recommend diagnosing yourself or giving anything to pup without vets advice... the sydney university has a great vet dept with latest technology etc... if your vet can't find the problem i would recommend a trip to them asap. if i can be of help please let me know FINGERS AND TOES CROSSED FOR PUPPY , Hopefully you have good news for us soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meg_Ed Posted January 24, 2006 Author Share Posted January 24, 2006 His epilepsy has nothing to do with whats going on now,as he never vomit before,during or after his fits.The vets a still believing it some sort of gastro up set wether being viral or bacterial or some blockage.X-rays this morning showd a thinkening in his small intestine that had moved from up near the stomache yeasterday.I have confidence in the vets where he is as they are very reputable in the area.I just have to let them do there best for him. Cheers Megs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffy-Lover Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Hi Megs, there are lots of gastro things going around at the moment, so lets hope that it is something that works itself out or that is found soon. Glad to hear that you have good vets, the suggestion was only if you weren't happy with them. is he still at the vets or is he home? still on the drip? Hope you have good news for us soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meg_Ed Posted January 25, 2006 Author Share Posted January 25, 2006 If he stays steady today they'll let him home to night.He's drinking now and holding that down but still on the drip.He's not interested in the chicken their offering(but he's never like chicken LOL)but he's tend not to eat when he's unhappy.Went to see him last night and he was definately brighter that sunday morning(when i dropped him off)but still not right. The vet said he was brighter again this morning. Finger crossed i take him home he'll have a good sleep in his bed and feel a lot better. Cheers Megs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meg_Ed Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Well since my last post Eddie did come home on the wednesday night but was back to the vets thursday arfternoon after becoming jaundice.Took him to a specialist at South Strathfeild ARH on friday for an ultrasound, he found his pancreas to be inflamed(his blood test still don't show he has pancreatitis).Apparently should be approx 8mm wide but was 2cm wide) and this is stopping the bile to flow properly and causing the jaundice.So now iam told it's just a weighting game for the inflamation to go down and keep him on fluids to flush and support his system.I visited him this morning he's quiet bright and happy.Hopefully we'll get some improvement soon. He wont be going back on PB if he gets thru this as specialist suspects that this may have helped cause this. He told me PB causes fat to store in the blood and cause these sorts of issues. hope he comes home soon i miss him soooo much Cheers Megs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffy-Lover Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 oh so sorry to hear that he is still not well Meg. Poor little thing. perhaps you can talk to the vet about other epi drugs. there are others out now that are only partially broken down in the liver..i think from memory Gabapentin is one of them. all my best wishes and let us know how he is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Shepherd mom Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Hi Megs, I have just read your posts on Eddie (been trying to limit my DOL time!). I am so sorry he is not well. Poor little mite does not sound well. I hope he recovers quickly. Have you posted on the canine-epilepsy forum? You'll probably find other people who have had the same problem and who can give you some advice. Just remember, everything we go through with epi, has already been experienced countless times by others before us. Sending prayers and hugs to Eddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meg_Ed Posted February 4, 2006 Author Share Posted February 4, 2006 UPDATE.....Eddie is having surgery on monday.His Bile duct has become scared from the pancreatitis and bile is unable to flow from the gallbladder.They will be doing a liver bi-opsey to se if the liver has been damaged. hopefully at the end i'll have Eddie back Megs :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffy-Lover Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Oh Meg sorry to hear that pup isn't better yet but lets hope that the surgery fixes it all up and you have pup back safe, sound and healthy soon our thoughts are with you... keep us updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheena8860 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Sorry to hear about Eddie and I hope all goes well with his op. We have not been so lucky our little man Boris died suddenly on Friday. he had what I now know as a cluster and while on the way to the vet this continued by the time we got him there he was finding it hard to breath and was very hot. The vet did all he could including putting him under and inserting a breathing tube but when the machine was turned off later in the night Boris could not hold his own and slipped away. My family are devastated as he did everything with us. We only found out about his epilepsy two months ago and we were justcoming to terms with the fits and getting the medication right, I expected it to shorten his life but not that short he would have been 2 on the 8/4/06. I wish you all the best for your pets and would like to thank you all for the information I got from this forum it really did help when we first found out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffy-Lover Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Oh Sheena, that is so sad. i am sorry to hear of your news. some dogs do live to a ripe old age with epilepsy and others unfortunately do not make it. clusterers are particular in danger of fatality during a seizure. my dog is a clusterer and i keep cold towels. ice, ice cream the works in the freezer to keep him cool during his seizures..... my greatest fear is just what you have experienced so i really really am so sorry to hear of your loss. puppy is just lucky that he had a great family to love him sooo much during his short stay with us my best wishes to you and your family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Sheena I am so sorry to hear of your loss. It must have been a terrible shock to you. My Monte is also a clusterer. We thought we were on a lucky streak when he wetn more than three weeks without a siezure but this was broken on Saturday. Still, to be positive, he only had two seizures this time. Meg - do you have any news on Eddie? I hope he is still ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meg_Ed Posted February 5, 2006 Author Share Posted February 5, 2006 This morning at about 9am Eddie had a sudden heart attack and they were unable to revive him.They said that it was not expected and that he just crashed fast ,so hopefully he didn't feel anything. Thanks to all for you advice and well wishes and all the best to you and your epi pups. Sheena iam sorry to hear about boris. Megs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned by Shelties Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Hi Megs, Im so sorry to here bout your baby, my heart really does go out to you and your family :p :p Please take some comfort in knowing he's in a much better place now. Can I ask how old he was? Take care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Oh sh%t Meg, I am so sad to hear this. It seems that our epi friends are having a bad run. :p My thoughts are with you. I am so very sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meg_Ed Posted February 6, 2006 Author Share Posted February 6, 2006 Sheltie lover ...He was only 4yrs old,5 in september. They weren't expecting this .He was ment to have surgery first thing this morn.They now think that there was probably a lot of liver damage but they would not have known untill they took a liver bi-opsy during the op.So it was most likely for the best. To all you guys with epi pups and who are on PB,really watch their diet.Make sure their on LOW FAT. Megs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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