Ashli Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 What do you guys think about this??? Worth it or not?? http://www.thomsoneducationdirect.com.au/index.cfm?id=142 Ashli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Hi Zisfamily. This has been discussed here on DOL. To help, here's the link. Thomson Education Obedience Trainer Course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Rottweiler Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 National Dog Trainers Federation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roguedog Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 I wouldnt bother with the Thompson Education Direct course.... IMO, the best course around at the moment is definantly the NDTF course... twice the price but more than worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 National Dog Trainers Federation Just for interest what does this course cost? I cannot locate the information on the web site. Do people who have no wish, like me, do the course just for their information and not to w.......ww.......wo..........wor...........( I am trying) to say the word ........work for financial gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Rottweiler Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 I honestly don't know what the cost of the course is at the moment, I should because I see them all the time but I don't. However, if you call Julija at the NDTF, she will answer any questions you might have. To answer your question about what kind of people do the course, all types. Professional, non profit, councils rangers and just normal every day people who want to learn. There's nothing wrong with training dogs for financial gain either. Some people, like myself and others on this list have invested 10's of thousands of dollars on their education and setup to benefit people in need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 There's nothing wrong with training dogs for financial gain either. Some people, like myself and others on this list have invested 10's of thousands of dollars on their education and setup to benefit people in need. Of course there isn't. I did not for a second mean to belittle anyone whatever their employment is. I have not attended any set courses, but trust me I have spent lots of $$ travelling overseas trying to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 I think you'll find the NDTF course is between the $2000-3000 mark, but there are different methods of payment, or sponsoring of trainees...so you need to discuss those with relevant people at the main office. Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Thanks Mel. Good to know. Just in case I ever want to s....st....stu......stud........study again. I thought my days of wanting to do so were well past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Thanks Mel. Good to know. Just in case I ever want to s....st....stu......stud........study again. I thought my days of wanting to do so were well past. You're welcome... A friend of mine completed the course last year, and was *already* a Dog Trainer having done a similar, but non-accredited course earlier. She thoroughly enjoyed it, and from what I have read of her manuals it looks very well-rounded. She is not working with them at the moment either (too busy with kids) but feels confident enough to do private lessons. Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 You know, I might just give them a ring on Monday, I am very interested in their gundog work of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Rottweiler Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Hi lablover, I didn't feel that you were trying to belittle anyone either. When I was involved with Rotty club training some of the instructor used to have a bee in their bonnet about professional trainers. The definition of a professional is as follows A person who practices an occupation involving high standards of intellectual knowledge after successfully completing the required education and training. I had a trainer once at a local obedience centre, (non profit) who said to me, "I'm not here for you! I'm here because I want to be here!" and it was as demeaning as it sounds. Anyway back on topic. I think StaffordsRule may be right but speak to Julija and she wil clear everything up for you and she won't bite either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Thanks Herr Rottweiler. I have a little distrust of some training organisations as a few contacts, have certificates are not very good dog people. Years ago I also telephoned for advice regarding a training problem. One US president of the club was visiting so came to observe too. They asked me some questions and off to the paddocks we went. I noticed them talking together from a distance and thought, good O, they will have some great advice. After an hour or two they left saying they would get back in contact with me. I never heard from them again. They did not send me a bill either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 (edited) You know, I might just give them a ring on Monday, I am very interested in their gundog work of course. Hey are you still doing some Retrieving practice? I'm interested in starting with my Toller, he's retrieving to hand now. Just gotta go get my firearms licence...??? ETA: Am happy to put you onto my friend if you want some objective feedback about the NDTF course...she is happy to talk to anyone about it. Mel. Edited October 8, 2005 by StaffordsRule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Like every day, LOL. Join us!!! Remember it is life changing and a certain mad glow occurs at the oddest times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Like every day, LOL.Join us!!! Remember it is life changing and a certain mad glow occurs at the oddest times. Yeah well we are too young to do agility, so we thought we might find something else to get addicted to in the meantime. LOL Also sister from the same litter has her Junior Hunt title over in the US, and is going for her WC, so we are jealous You're in the Vic Gundog Club I assume? Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 (edited) Toller - Canada/US. Their junior AKC hunt tests are cute. I wish ours were as newbie friendly. Man, their Open field trials are amazing!!!!!!!!!! ____________________________________________________________ _______ Staffords rule: I am just about to go to bed and to tell you the truth I worried about my terminology all night. I did not mean to type "cute" I meant FAIR. I think because they have attention seekers and shots (and in field trials throwers in white), at the very least the dog have the opportunity to see the marks. BTW, it is not necessary to have a shooters license. Edited October 8, 2005 by Lablover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haven Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 financial gain. i wish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latisha Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 I am currently doing the Thompson Education course and I think it is a great course for beginners like me. I have looked into the NDTF but they don't have a distance education package put together yet (I live in Sydney). They are hoping to by the end of the year. It actually supports alot of the information fed through this website and covers all types of training. The assignments / tests are pretty basic which is also good hehe. The NDTF is by far the most recommended course though but I cannot afford to do it until it is distance education. In saying this, the theory is easy...I just don't have the practice. I have asked to volunteer at a few places around my area but due to insurance, this has not been feasible for trainers etc. and obedience clubs seems to train with classical training or training that eliminates the drive. I also think I day visiting K9 Force said all of what has been in my books except for quoting experiments etc. Kristy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roguedog Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Kristy, I had the same trouble with insurance back when I was trying to get volunteer work, heres the website for an insurance company who will cover volunteers so they can get the work experience.. its not all that expensive either (considering what you get out of it)... IC Frith & Associates/work experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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