Erny Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 As a result of a discussion in another thread, thought I'd start up this new one for people to post in about bad experiences they've had as a result of the use of inappropriate and poor quality equipment on our dogs. Here's one of mine (as posted in other thread): "On behalf of a client, who lost control of his young doberman dog, I sliced the tip of one of my fingers off grabbing at his poor quality leash whilst trying to stop his dog from racing through the gates onto the road. I'm glad I managed, but it should've been the owner, not me ....." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Rottweiler Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 If you are going to use a correction chain, make sure it has HS GERMANY stamped on each end ring. I had a client hand me their GSD who was a lovely big excitable boy. He was pulling on the lead like a steam train so I gave him a pop. The chian snapped and flew back into my face and hit me in the eye. Lucky I was wearing glasses at the time. Needless to say that the chain was a cheaply made Taiwan chain. Don't be a penny pincher when it comes to good quality dog training equipment. Your dogs life may depend on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pandii Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I had brought A cheap leather collar from a discount store for my 10 month old rotti X hes not bad walking normally but SWFs are just meant to be chased according to him. He sees one, he pulls/lunges metal ring snaps, hes off, took me 20 mins to get him back. thankfully no damage was done that time. As I still had to get him home I clipped his lead through the metal buckle where it does up. coming home we run into another small dog, again he lunged/pulled, again the collar snapped, lead flicks back and the clip cuaght my wrist, jusst brusing thank god, but me daughters face was about 15 cm from my wrist at the time. This time my husband managed to grab him by the tail as he was about to take off, so no chasing was needed. Stillhaving to finish getting home I looped the lead around his neck and prayed all the way home. Never again will I buy cheap crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pandii Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 (edited) Sorry double post Edited October 7, 2005 by Pandii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 K9: people should take alook at the snap on their leads, look at the bolt that passes through the ring, you may see that it is hollow or was hollow & has been filled with solder or similar. Most die cast snaps are made this way, a good tug & the head pops off the bolt & your dog is free. When you catch him, if you do before he is injured, you dont have a leash to get him home again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haven Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 (edited) Collars with plastic clips for walking and training: NEVER EVER EVER! I have seen even very small puppies break them and get loose. ETA: leaving correction chains on unsupervised dogs. My neighbours dog hung itself over the fence. Not pretty. What makes it even sadder is that they are not the only people I know who this has happened to. Edited October 7, 2005 by haven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I think someone should invent unchewable leather leads, LOL and come to think of it unchewable trailer leads, car mud flaps and the like. How I love training in paddocks (and in cooler weather-but then I have cold water tail to worry about if they are confined when still damp) where my dogs can safely be returned to their permanent metal crates in my vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Rottweiler Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 ETA: leaving correction chains on unsupervised dogs. My neighbours dog hung itself over the fence. Not pretty. What makes it even sadder is that they are not the only people I know who this has happened to. Great point Haven. It's the golden rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted October 7, 2005 Author Share Posted October 7, 2005 ... leaving correction chains on unsupervised dogs. My neighbours dog hung itself over the fence. Not pretty. What makes it even sadder is that they are not the only people I know who this has happened to. Yep ... unfortunately this is too common. Some people I know of had their dog tied up (on a check chain) outside the caravan they were staying in for the weekend. They heard some noises, but just thought the dog was growl/playing/mucking around with something. When they did eventually emerge from the van, their dog had died. Too sad. This can also happen just as easily when the dog is in the car with a check chain on. Only needs to catch the ring on something projecting out (eg. window winder) and they're in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna H Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Ditto on the NEVER EVER use those adjustable nylon flat collars with plastic clips.... not after what happened yesterday. See thread: Collar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelpiecuddles Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 My dogs both have a nylon collar with a plastic clip but we NEVER use them as weight bearing (ie. they hold their ID and that is their only purpose) when we go out for walkies Beau wears his head halter and sascha wears a buckle collar. I personally can't stand chokers I don't think they work on many dogs anyway. My aunties step kids dog hung itself one their mums fence. The worst part was that it was him that found him (the kid was 8 at the time) no kid should have to find their dog dead, especially like that. The reason my dogs wear clip collars when they are in the yard is that I know that although he can't jump high enough Beau will have a go at jumping the fence and personally if his collar gets caught on the fence I want it to snap easily. Besides I know that if he does get out he is not hard to call back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicko Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Its hard to know what you guys are talking about that are the wrong ones...do u have pictures of what we should be using lead and collar wise? of the right ones.. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 (edited) K9: these are the martingales we have, chain slip not nylon... Metal buckles that dont slip, no plastci, we have 3 sizes, fit every dog Edited October 7, 2005 by K9 Force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelpiecuddles Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Sorry no pics but maybe I can help explain. The ones that are the problem are the adjustable nylon ones with a plastic clip (you often get them at discount stores). The best thing to use is a collar (leather is better) with a buckle that goes through the little holes like a belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted October 7, 2005 Author Share Posted October 7, 2005 (edited) I personally can't stand chokers I don't think they work on many dogs anyway. Me thinks this is the subject of a different thread (and there are plenty here on DOL where this has already been discussed) but, like any tool, check chains need to be used properly. When used as they should be, they can, and do, work well and can be a good communicative piece of equipment. I've used them on heaps of dogs very successfully. KC: The reason my dogs wear clip collars when they are in the yard is that I know that although he can't jump high enough Beau will have a go at jumping the fence and personally if his collar gets caught on the fence I want it to snap easily. Besides I know that if he does get out he is not hard to call back. I agree ... IMO and in my experience, plastic clip collars are only good for holding your dog's ID tags on. Makes me wonder (and worry) though, that head collars are made with plastic clips. Given that many people purchase and use headcollars to control boisterous and/or out of control dogs, I'm not keen that the whole thing relies on the plastic clip. I have heard also of the metal ring to which the lead attaches on the head collar, snapping. (Not sure which headcollar brand.) From what I can gather, you can get headcollars with buckle attachments, rather than plastic clip attachments, but I think these are from overseas ... I've never seen them sold here. Edited October 7, 2005 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelpiecuddles Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I have never seen a dog head collar with a buckle. However, Beau wears a miniature horse foal halter. It fits him perfectly and it has metal buckles rather than a plastic clip. He also finds it more comfortable and it only cost me $10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciara Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Can someone suggest a long thin SAFE lead suitable for a Chihuahua then please? Also what leather collar is going to be small enough, and safe enough for such a small dog? Thanks :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 try this one... lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pandii Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 try this one... lol... PMSL :p :p :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted October 7, 2005 Author Share Posted October 7, 2005 Can someone suggest a long thin SAFE lead suitable for a Chihuahua then please?Also what leather collar is going to be small enough, and safe enough for such a small dog? You can get leather collars, with buckles, for toy dogs. I know Australian Dog Training sell them (to non-members too), but you should be able to get them through reputable pet stores too. ADT also stock good quality leads and long lines. Sometimes it's difficult, I know, with tiny dogs, because the length of the lead in itself adds weight. Alot depends on your dog's sensitivity to the lead (some little dogs are full on and act like it's not there!). Maybe ask them about their long lines as well and see if they have something suitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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