GorgeousAmber Posted October 7, 2005 Author Share Posted October 7, 2005 Thanks, patch. In my many searches on dog behaviour when I first got Amber, I did come across Turid Rugaas. I lick my nose at Amber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 E: Is this to be read as if in a scenario where the dog your handling is, due to its level of aggression, already in a very heightened state and therefore not likely to allow a loose leash to enter the equation? K9: 1. when your dog is aggressive & when approached by an off leash dog. 2. when you dont have voice control of your dog, need to use physical control. I dont use dogs I meet on the street as training decoys, too many chances for failure. E": Yes ... and usually in an escalating fashion K9: I feel that the dog hits the heights in aggression very quickly, but over time, the threshold to defence lowers, meaning it takes less to trigger aggression than it did in the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorgeousAmber Posted October 7, 2005 Author Share Posted October 7, 2005 K9: its all good however you will also need to formally work past this, not wait until you see a dog then try & figure it all out.You will need to get someone to handle the other dog, this all needs to be done in a program. I must admit, I was feeling guilty getting free advice from you I'll see if I can talk my bf into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 K9: sorry thats not what I meant, free advice your most welcome to, the stuff on here is very basic anyway, lol. Dont try too hard to convince your BF, I havent looked but I think Im all booked up the rest of this year... Maybe a place or two left somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I My friend says "why put your dogs in a drop, they could tear that thing apart". The answer is, no dog ever wins a fight, one gets hurt & the other learns he can beat up other dogs. love it that is such a good explanation yb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Rottweiler Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I My friend says "why put your dogs in a drop, they could tear that thing apart". The answer is, no dog ever wins a fight, one gets hurt & the other learns he can beat up other dogs. love it that is such a good explanation yb This is one reason why I detest dog organisations that have puppy parties where puppies are all put in a ring together and left to mill about. When a puppy becomes agrresive with the other pups they simply take it out and "Upgrade" it into the next ring of puppies. What a stupid way for a puppy to learn dominance and be rewarded for it. I love and encourage plenty of puppy fun and socialisation WITH the owner present and in control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 K9: many dog trainers belong in the circus... lol... but they have trouble co ordinating the Uni cycle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Rottweiler Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 K9 .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Lol Yup no what you mean i went along to watch a puppy school once all the puppies were off together and two biger pups kept bullying a littler one they hassled it and hassled it until eventually the little one hid under a chair at this point a lab pup went to say hi and the little on a maltese cross i think snapped at it so the instructor the maltese a time out at no time did she do anything to stop the two bigger dogs a lab and a boxer bullying the others. six months later i met another lady who had attended the same class her dog had been one of the bigger ones she was now having a lot of trouble with him being aggressive around other dogs i asked her if she knew what happened to the little dog she said they never came back probably just as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Rottweiler Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Yes Yogi it's an ongoing problem that usually ignorant *wheeties trainers do that causes a multitude of problems, including the one you just mentioned, as we are dealing with puppies in the critical period. Scott & Fuller, (research team) did extensive work on these issues which some people choose to coveniently ignore. *A wheeties trainer is a trainer who found their certificate in a Wheeties box! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 lol better yet her way of keeping puppies from getting too boistrous was throwing food on the ground lol by the way she was a certified dog trainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I have always found that a Genuine Weet Bix Training certificate is better value, it comes with red nose & uni cycle training.. & of course more fibre so the crap flows easily lmao... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Bugger i hate weetbix can you get them in other cereals do you get a discount on the unicycle or just the free lessons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 K9: well its usually a secret but between you & me, us Pro's use Hi Fibre..... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Rottweiler Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 :p Aww guys the comedy in the forum is great tonight! Keep it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 (edited) Does that make your flesh and sweat more or less appealing when doing civil agitation i love that term it conjures up so many images lol yb Edited October 7, 2005 by yogibear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K9Pro Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 K9: Im writing it down, this is the serious training advice I give... (still waiting on my certs & I fell off that damn uni cycle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogibear Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 aww didnt you use your voucher for the free lessons or did you accidenlty eat it thinking it was hi fibre lol yb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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