Eldoop Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 At what age do you change your puppy from a collar to a check/chocker chain for training/walking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelpiecuddles Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I would only do it if you need to. Personally I found that might big boofer boy is much better on a Halti style as he just pulls on a choker. If you think you might want to get a Halti I suggest buying a cheap one for her to get used to as a pup because if you introduce it to late they tend to hate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 IMO if you teach her to walk on a loose lead from a young age, she probably shouldn't ever need one. (Apart from that I can't help. The dogs I've worked with have all been way older than yours.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dali-love Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I changed Mili over when she went to class 1. I got her at 14 weeks and had hardly any lead training (but had show training). The main reasond I changed over was that I have different leads/collars for different occasions, slip and yellow lead for obedience, flatcollar with red lead for walking, and show lead for the show. I Hardly ever had to use the check chain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espinay2 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I don't For general walking and training I use a martingale collar on just about everything regardless of age. The only time I use a slip type collar is used is for show training - pups are started out on a soft cloth slip lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FHRP Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Never I train and walk my dogs on flat collars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldoop Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 I would only do it if you need to. Personally I found that might big boofer boy is much better on a Halti style as he just pulls on a choker. If you think you might want to get a Halti I suggest buying a cheap one for her to get used to as a pup because if you introduce it to late they tend to hate them. Ok what is a 'Halti"??? do you have any pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I don't ever Nat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloverfdch Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Never aswell . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel774 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Same answer here - never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie-i Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 If your training methods work for you and you are doing them properly from the start, then as Am stated, you'll probably never need one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 (edited) Ok what is a 'Halti"??? do you have any pics? A "Halti" is a brand of head collar. A google search for "Halti" will take you to their website. "Gentle Leader" is another brand and style and "Black Dog Wear" have one as well and there are others. If you require one, they're more a management tool than a training tool, IMO, but you should research on them to make sure you use them properly. Like any equipment, it shouldn't be a case of just put it on the animal and off you go. There are specific handling skills required for proper use, as well as an awareness of the advantages and disadvantages and possible injuries in their mis-use. And, before I get flamed, I mean this of any equipment we use on our animals . ETA: A google search on each of the brands should take you to some pictures. Edited September 7, 2005 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorRex Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I too have different collars and leads for different occasions, martingale for general wlaking and obedience and then a show chain(light weight ) and show lead for shows. You can buy check chains that are made of nylon webbing( much gentler on the dog's neck and far less risk of injury) and I have used these for many years. the metal ones I loathe to be used on dogs; they are a last resort IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tess32 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Personally I would never use a flat collar for walking - you never know when your dog might get a big fright and slip the collar. A limited slip of some kind is much safer. Nat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staranais Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I'd personally prefer a pinch collar over either a choke or a halti, should you end up needing to use a training collar at all. I feel a pinch is safer for the dog than a choke, and kinder on most dogs than a halti. But each to their own - I'd recommend you try out all 3 type of device under supervision of a qualified trainer before you decide which you (and your dog) prefer. There are also several types of anti-pull harnesses available that you could investigate. Like the halti, these don't actually discourage the dog from pulling, but do apparently stop him pulling while he has the harness on. Like Erny says, you'll need to have a think about your training goals before you slap a training collar or harness on your dog, so that you can pick the appropriate one for what you're aiming to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dali-love Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 this is a pic of a halti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malinwar Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 i start off with using a check chain but i start training them when there 6-8 months old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zia's Nuthouse Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 I'd personally prefer a pinch collar over either a choke or a halti, should you end up needing to use a training collar at all. I feel a pinch is safer for the dog than a choke, and kinder on most dogs than a halti. But each to their own - I'd recommend you try out all 3 type of device under supervision of a qualified trainer before you decide which you (and your dog) prefer. Absolutely Amhailte If you find a check chain works better then go for it. I use check chains on both of mine with no dramas Everyone has to find the equipment that works best for them, providing it is used correctly. Some people swear by them, some say no way. Some swear by haltis and some say no way. when you find one that works just stick to it and you shouldn't have any problems. Good luck :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pippi Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Not sure what age your puppy is but hopefully you are attending a reputable training school where you shouyld be able to get good advice. IMO a correction chain should never be used on a puppy under 12 weeks, beyond that age it is still questionable. Using a c/chain or not should not be an automatic upgrade, i.e. from flat collar to c/chain, from grade 1 to grade 2, from windows 95 to XP etc etc (hope that makes sense). It is something you think about, and research, and ask questions about (as you are doing here ) It is a decision you make with the dogs temperament and training requirements in mind. As others have already stated, you may decide that for your dog, it is completely unnecessary - or alternatively if you are having issues you may need to look at other options (many of which have already been mentioned). But please don't just move to a c/chain purely based on the age or size of the dog. Stick with your training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 I'd personally prefer a pinch collar over either a choke or a halti, should you end up needing to use a training collar at all. I feel a pinch is safer for the dog than a choke, and kinder on most dogs than a halti. But each to their own - I'd recommend you try out all 3 type of device under supervision of a qualified trainer before you decide which you (and your dog) prefer. Unfortunately, Amhailte, pinch collars have been banned for use in Victoria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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