dawnb12 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I'm intrigued to find out what colour puppies would be produced if someone bred a kc registered blue bitch (white cross on chest) and kc registered red male (white front paw) both got amazing bloodlines. With there Inbreeding Coefficient (COI) only being 3.6 percent. Which i believe the lower the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) Colour i cant help as im not sure how simple it is in Staffies without knowing colours in pedigree & DNA colour testing . As to the COI it again is as simple as lower is better & hopefully no breeder goes by that theory alone . I do know in the UK many have that mindset yet within my breed dogs in a pedigree of hips scores up near the 30 OMGno BAER testing but brag about the COI being low has truly screwed over the concept on know your pedigree Edited Sunday at 01:07 AM by Dogsfevr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mairead Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) By KC do you mean Kennel Club England? On your dog's pedigree are the colours of the dogs mentioned? It is possible, depending on the colours of the grandparents that you could get some washed -out unhealthy looking and non-standard colours from the combination of Ay and d genes. Is there a recommendation that blue should only be bred to black, as there is in the Great Dane? Colour should usually be the last thing you consider when breeding but because you mention blue, are you familiar with colour dilution alopecia? The most important thing before breeding would be to know as much as you can about not just the proposed parents but also their relatives. I put it this way: the dog you know and love is just one hand of cards in a big deck. The relatives will show you what other cards might be in the deck but when you breed you will be shuffling those cards and hoping to get only the good ones. Edited January 17 by Mairead 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asal Posted Saturday at 10:32 PM Share Posted Saturday at 10:32 PM (edited) usually blue to gold/red would be all black puppies, unless the red/gold carried a blue dilution gene, then some could be blue. Or the blue carried only one black gene then some could be red/gold only way to know what they carry is a dna profile done which is a good idea anyway, you sure dont want puppies with two copies for PRA or PLL just for starters. the profile will give you who is clear, carrier or two copies for many conditions Edited Saturday at 10:38 PM by asal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted Saturday at 11:12 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:12 PM How was COI calculated? It's possible that a 5 generation COI looks good but a 16 generation COI is a disaster. I don't know if line breeding was fashionable for Staffies in past decades. DNA testing is preferred if a pedigree that goes back many many generations can't be found. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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