Pet Vaccine Misinformation Rising Following Covid -19 Pandemic ,Vets Say. ABC News 19/12/24.

[Deeds]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-19/pet-vaccine-concern-parvovirus-covid-pandemic/104657582

[asal]

one side affect in some puppies is immune system crash, resulting in either so bad has to have low dose ivomec for the rest of its life to keep demodectic mange at bay for the rest of its life.  Happened to a Cavalier puppy and even at 8, stop dosing and his skin would go red and coat fall out.

 

But 90% of vets would never admit it.

 

Mine was upfront from the minute it became obvious he had suddenly developed hot skin, rash and coat falling out.  He hoped he would recover his immune system.  But never did. although lived well into his teens long as the low dose ivomec was kept up.

 

At lease he never caught parvo, stayed safe from that for life, although was never given any more boosters.  As he said the majority of dogs never need another booster anyway. So much in the air from the huge number of never vaccinated dogs catching it and passing on, are constantly re exposed to it to maintain immunity themselves. He advised titre testing if unsure.

 

Edited December 19 by asal

[tdierikx]

Generally in an adult dog the C3 vaccine (parvovirus, distemper, hepatitis) can have immunity effect for between 3 and 7 years, but this is due to a combination of factors...

 

1. the dog must have had the full course of puppy vaccinations AND their first adult booster to start the process of developing immune responses to the diseases

2. the dog needs to have regular low level exposure to those diseases to ensure continuing stimulation of the immune response to them

 

I have seen pups get sick after a vaccine, but generally this has only happened when the vaccine was given at the same time as their worming treatment and caused their little systems a big shock. As a result, I never worm puppies the same day as I vaccinate them. I also only give pups a C3 vaccine, as kennel cough is generally not lethal to healthy pups as long as the owner is vigilant to make sure they stay warm and dry during the course of the disease and seek medical help if the phlegm expelled becomes yellow or green. The kennel cough vaccines tend to only give good immune coverage for around 6 months anyways, so I'd only give those components if you were going to board your dog or there was a high incidence of kennel cough going around.

 

The incidence of extreme adverse reaction to dog vaccines is rare, but obviously this doesn't give any comfort if your dog is the one in a million that has the reaction. Still, I wouldn't use anectdotal "evidence" as a reason to not vaccinate your dog. I've seen first hand what parvo and distemper do to a dog, and it's not something I'd chance happening when I have access to a perfectly good vaccine that can stop it happening to my dog.

 

By all means, titre test your dog if you have concerns about the vaccines, but don't discard any thought of vaccinating based on media hype after a dog may have had an adverse reaction to one. Your dog deserves better than that from you.

 

T.

[sandgrubber]

Titres don't tell give the information you need.  T cell based immunity is often effective long after antibody levels drop.  So you may end up paying for the tetre AND the vaccination

 

 

Btw, the article gives vaccination costs $90 to $250?  Eeeks!  When I live in the USA I bought vaccine and diy'd it.  Cost USD 5.  Ok.  I can see paying something for a checkup and short consult, but ....

[Papillon Kisses]

2 minutes ago, sandgrubber said:

Btw, the article gives vaccination costs $90 to $250?  Eeeks!  When I live in the USA I bought vaccine and diy'd it.  Cost USD 5.  Ok.  I can see paying something for a checkup and short consult, but ....

I think that’s poor reporting since it’s not a direct quote from a vet. Usually vaccinations are part of the pet’s annual wellness exam so a number of things are being checked and as well additional diagnostics or care where needed e.g. bloods. However an unaware client or reporter may not register that, thinking well I went to the vet for their “annual shots” so that’s all I’m paying for. ~$100 was the cost of a long consult at our vet maybe 8 years ago.

[sandgrubber]

16 hours ago, Papillon Kisses said:

I think that’s poor reporting since it’s not a direct quote from a vet. Usually vaccinations are part of the pet’s annual wellness exam so a number of things are being checked and as well additional diagnostics or care where needed e.g. bloods. However an unaware client or reporter may not register that, thinking well I went to the vet for their “annual shots” so that’s all I’m paying for. ~$100 was the cost of a long consult at our vet maybe 8 years ago.

I can't remember ever having a vet spend more than 5 minutes on the “exam“ associated with a vaccination.  Usually they pull out the stethascope and look at teeth and ears.  Maybe also ask what I'm feeding them. I've owned a dozen dogs, and when I was a breeder, briefly owned 100+ puppies...so at least 150 vaccinations, not one of which ended out in discovery of anything that needed attention. Nor have I ever seen an adverse reaction apart from one litter of puppies getting kennel cough from a bad lot of vaccine (fiasco).  Btw... mostly Labradors, a few Springers.

Edited Monday at 05:52 PM by sandgrubber
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