Deeds Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 https://www.9news.com.au/world/dog-breeds-longest-lived-shortest-lived-new-research/9de32832-5fca-4f99-bc4d-c13c413547f9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeds Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 Update on above post. Here is a more comprehensive list of the most long and short lived dog breeds. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13032305/Is-dog-list-Interactive-chart-reveals-breeds-longest-shortest-life-expectancies-bad-news-flat-faced-pups.html more Is your breed on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogsAndTheMob Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) Here is the information from Battersea Dogs and Cats Home https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/downloads/shortest and longest table_for webpage PDF.pdf and the research paper. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-50458-w I was surprised by some of the statistics; for example, the median longevity of the Brittany (11.1 years) in comparison to Golden Retrievers (13.2 years) and Pekingese (13.3 years). In the Brittany and Golden Retriever forums in which I participate, I see more reports of Golden Retrievers dying young (usually due to cancer) than of Brittanies dying young. I think this statement may explain the odd statistic for Brittanies and I wonder if the converse is true for Pekingese. “Furthermore, the growing popularity of certain breeds may result in an over representation of younger individuals within the data, which increases the risk of underestimating their lifespan“ I ‘d take the study with a grain of salt because of the range of data sources… rescues, vets, insurance companies and the Kennel Club. From my observations, breed identifications by rescues are often inaccurate. I’m not sure about vets and insurance companies, but I guess their information is only as good as what they’re told by the owners. The Kennel Club breed identifications should be good but, if the UK is like Australia, notifications of dogs’ deaths may be spotty and some breed clubs may encourage their membership to be more diligent than others. Finally, I wonder how much double-reporting occurs from that spread of data sources. Edited February 2 by DogsAndTheMob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogsAndTheMob Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) This from 9 News seems like sloppy reporting or reporting with an agenda. “And medium-sized flat faced breeds, such as English bulldogs, had the lowest median life expectancy…” English Bulldogs were number 9 on the list, behind some large to very large breeds and, for some reason Affenpinschers. (Speaking as an advocate for accuracy, not for brachy breeds.) Edited February 2 by DogsAndTheMob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascalmyshadow Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) I don’t believe the study at all, it says golden retrievers have a longer lifespan than chihuahuas (just one example) which is a load of rubbish. Edited February 2 by Rascalmyshadow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) Here is a more trustworthy study https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-10341-6#Fig2 Jack Russell Terrier had the greatest life expectancy at age 0 at 12.72 (95% CI: 12.53–12.90) years, followed by Yorkshire Terrier (12.54 years; 95% CI: 12.30–12.77), Border Collie (12.10 years; 95% CI: 11.85–12.33) and Springer Spaniel (11.92 years; 95% CI: 11.69–12.13). Compared to other breeds, many brachycephalic breeds (i.e., breeds of dogs with a short, flat face) had a relatively short life expectancy at age 0, with French Bulldog having the shortest at 4.53 (95% CI: 4.14–5.01) years, 2.86 years less than the value for English Bulldog (7.39 years; 95% CI: 7.08–7.69). Edited February 2 by sandgrubber added quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redsonic Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 15 hours ago, Rascalmyshadow said: I don’t believe the study at all, it says golden retrievers have a longer lifespan than chihuahuas (just one example) which is a load of rubbish. I think this graph might explain the Chihuahua anomaly. It looks like losses earlier in life might skew the Chihuahua statistics. Perhaps misadventure (fractures, dog bite wounds etc) or behavioural euthanasia causes higher mortality in youth, but if you are a Chi of advancing years, things look a lot better. https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41598-022-10341-6/MediaObjects/41598_2022_10341_Fig3_HTML.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnnnn Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 (edited) people get addicted to dogs, when they die, it hurts more than just a lot. can any one let me know who personally have lived with show cocker spaniels, how long do they live? No issue even if they shed a lot. Edited November 8 by Finnnnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 On 03/11/2024 at 5:46 PM, Finnnnn said: people get addicted to dogs, when they die, it hurts more than just a lot. can any one let me know who personally have lived with show cocker spaniels, how long do they live? A friend of mine recently had to say goodbye to her beloved ex-show Cocker... she was 17... T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Gifts Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 I actually feel quite happy that the doggos I've owned have nearly all beat the statistics! I can remember Stussy the stafford being part of data gathered across the globe for dogs with Geriatric Onset Laryngeal Paralysis (GOLP). She was the only dog on a list of hundreds who died of old age natural causes after a GOLP diagnosis. I think it is a combo of some dogs just being tougher than others, an attentive and responsive owner and advancements in veterinary care. I feel too many people accept limitations and pain in their elderly dogs, just putting it down to age, rather than looking for options to maintain and manage any deterioration and suffering. My girl was 14 and a couple of months when she had tie back surgery so she could live and that's because overall she was in good health for her age and her age was not a barrier to having it or recovering from it. I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone say their dog was too old for a certain treatment without even having investigated it. Why do we put that limitation on dogs? We've got young Albert now and whilst the average is 10.6 for his breed according to that list, I think he'll be with us 12 - 15 years minimum, barring some medical disaster. We're in it for the long haul! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mairead Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Unusual to see the term median used rather than average, but if it is a cut and paste exercise ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspen Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 The Japanese Spitz are not known on any of those sources. Does that mean they live forever? I'm just messing. I believe their life expectancy to be between 12-14 years. Does anyone have some reputable sources saying otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mairead Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 Japanese Spitz is listed in one of the links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asal Posted Tuesday at 11:31 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:31 PM one very effective way to ensure all breeds have shorter and shorter lives is the legislation the AJP failed to achieve so far. That all males be desexed at 7. Thus ensuring no males 8 and over can be used for breeding. the older the male the more sure you are he was not hiding poor genes that at present do not have a dna tests for and only surface as the dogs grow older. particularly mv and syringelia myelia (no idea how to spell it.) a male I had Zambuna Cav King jack lived to 17 and never developed either condition nor did his pups. such genetics are worth their weight in gold for the breed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mairead Posted yesterday at 12:56 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:56 AM I know of a Greyhound breeder who breeds with older animals, males and females. She doesn't want to "improve" (= change) just preserve. And as she keeps some puppies, the longer time between generations makes sense. People used to breed early before the dogs died of distemper or something else. Some still keeping to that old adage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asal Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) I am registering a litter this week, their dad is 9 years old. I suspect this is his 1st litter. He belongs to a friend, he bred him from a pup he bought from me. Wanted a litter before its too late. So glad I did. they are beauties. incorporating so many awesome dogs and kennel names together. Itsozi, Darshu, Adavale, Pureheel, Arizona, Ansavon Red Connie (From the only cattledog litter bred by one of the greatest Border Collie breeders in the ANKC and Connie sure made him proud, two of her puppies won 4 and 8 best in shows for their happy owners ) and of course, Hilton Sinclair's Berrilyn brings us a very real threat to our dogs genetics actually. The bill that didn't make it due to the nsw election being called before the next sitting and it being passed. included that no bitch could have more than 2 litters in her lifetime. AND all males be desexed at 7 years? what would this mean if she had succeeded? The effective elimination from the gene pool of the very dogs we need to keep long-lived genetics in our dogs many conditions that there is no dna marker for do not evidence until the dog is over 6 or 7. MV just to name one suggested over a decade ago that cavalier breeders identify their dogs that have made it to 7, 10 and 15 MV free. OK by which time all the females would be too old to breed anyway. But considering Barbara Striesand cloned 3 puppies from her favourite dog. the club band together and clone these exceptional females and the puppies can create a whole new MV and obviously syringomyelia free lines. Ditto for the males who pass this milestone. they exist. I had Zambuna Cav King Jack and he lived to 17 MV free. he never sired a syringomyelia pup and his babies on average lived to 15 years. some of my original females were MV free, some developed it at 7 and 10. His pups tended to be free to 10 to 14 many never developed MV though their mums had. Sadly the males I used to his pups were a disaster hence I gave up. but dogs like Jack do exist both male and female and the breed could be saved this way. its not a pipe dream. it would work. Edited 8 hours ago by asal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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