asal Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 12/01/2024 at 3:24 PM, tdierikx said: They appear to have capitulated to the animal rights mob and are stopping surgical AI procedures. The animal rights mob reckons that performing reasonably minimally intrusive surgery to enable procreation is "inhumane"... whereas performing a complete hysterectomy on a very young puppy or kitten is perfectly "reasonable"... go figure! T. yes its now "humane" to pump 7 to 16 bullets body shot, (no head shot) into a brumby body from above from a helicopter but an abattoir will be closed ff an AR hidden camera films a calf blinking three times on the kill floor proving its not completely unconscious? according to the rspca vet, the shot brumbies were "insensible within 7 seconds" never seen any shooter get 7 shots let alone 16 delivered in less than 7 seconds? any hunter worth the name that cant bring down their target in one clean shot is mortified Hence the hunters and shooters party calling the National parks and rspca out for cruelty over the brumby cull slaughter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, asal said: any hunter worth the name that cant bring down their target in one clean shot is mortified Hence the hunters and shooters party calling the National parks and rspca out for cruelty over the brumby cull slaughter It is a very INHUMANE way to kill any animal, brumbies, deer or pigs, donkeys or camels. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asal Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, persephone said: It is a very INHUMANE way to kill any animal, brumbies, deer or pigs, donkeys or camels. I learned first hand one shot done to the right place kills instantly. down and out, not even a twitch. green dream does not, ask any vet, first ingredient is paralysis , that's why they seem so go to sleep so peacefully . mare had broken her leg, vet was out of green dream, but he had all the ingredients to make it save the paralysing one. you never want to see your beloved pet's body fighting to live, even if your vet is repeatedly assuring you "she is completely unconscious she is in no pain anymore, all the twitching fighting to breathe and paddling is just her nervous system shutting down" seemed to take forever .. and ever... and ever. so traumatic. still makes me sick to remember. friends son tried to kill himself with green dream, but he didn't realise have to either have someone else administer it or use a drip so he passed out before had injected enough to finish it. so survived although did quite a bit of damage to the arm he injected it in. At least complete green dream does give the peaceful looking end for us to cope with. the paralysing agent stops the body muscles doing what my mares did Edited January 16 by asal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, asal said: I learned first hand one shot done to the right place kills instantly. down and out, not even a twitch. Same here.It really is instant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 hours ago, persephone said: It is a very INHUMANE way to kill any animal, brumbies, deer or pigs, donkeys or camels. Yet RSPCA who were "observing" the trial of aerial culling that produced the "average 7.5 shots" (note that some took up to 15 shots delivered before death), have approved the method as "humane". Robert Borsak tore them a new one in the inquiry the other week... I've never seen RSPCA witnesses look so uncomfortable before... was a fun watch... RSPCA testimony starts at 4:30hr/min mark if you'd like to watch... My colleagues from Animal Care Australia testified at the hearing too... theirs starts at 2:07hr/min Claire Galea on the inaccuracy of the count that preceded the aerial culling decision starts at 2:47hr/min - very interesting testimony that calls into question the validity of the data produced by the count performed. Enjoy! T. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 On 16/01/2024 at 5:57 PM, tdierikx said: "average 7.5 shots" (note that some took up to 15 shots delivered before death), Oh No .....that is just so cruel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 hours ago, persephone said: Oh No .....that is just so cruel RSPCA actually endorsed it as "humane" during the trial run... no freaking joke,,, T. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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