John Nielsen Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 I have had working dog breeds my entire life but about a year ago I dog-sat a Dachshund puppy for a night, which became a weekend and I still have him. He is a male and not desexed, is a pure bred with papers. My 13 year old Border Collie who was a great companion to him died 2 weeks ago. I'm going to get another dog as a companion and another Dachshund. Possibly even breed them in the future and want to do it responsibly. I already have a line up of friends and family who will take a puppy and before I get howled down this is not a money making venture. Please advise the best process. I'm assuming I should get my dog DNA tested and then seek a suitable female through your members. I see heaps of dogs selling on marketplace and gumtree and prices vary from $1000 to $3000. Why is there such a huge variance? Any helpful suggestions/advice greatly appreciated. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Are the papers in your name and are you a member of DogsQld? Be aware, when push comes to shove, most of those family and friends won't want a pup when the time comes. Breeders on Dogz will not sell you a bitch to breed from as you are not yourself registered with DogsQld as a breeder. Join the nearest Dachshund club and see what health tests are done on the breed. I know you can't breed a dapple to a dapple because of health issues. Prices vary because they can. Each individual breeder sets their own price, the more a parent has done, imported, titles etc the more expensive the pup. Are you prepared to lose the bitch, who you will love, due to pregnancy or whelping issues, prepared to pay for a c-section, dead pups etc? Breeding is not for the faint hearted that's for sure. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boronia Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 There are 13 litters available in Qld at the moment and there are 30+ puppies available so it may be a plan to re-think being a breeder 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) I don't want to be a downer but here goes. A few things off the top of my head. With their growth in popularity (predominantly Mini) they are keeping the specialists here very busy with their IVDD and patella luxation. Some can be a bit of a mess that way. DNA is a good idea - looking at just Orivet it's quite a list, some of the conditions I can't even pronounce. Do make sure the dog is actually microchipped and registered to you, old owners may want their share of a litter. I guess the main thing for me is if you're always prepared to take your dogs back for their entire lifetime no matter what for the next 15 years, so they don't end up in a shelter or pound. Trivia; a pound just had 8 beautiful Dachshund pups surrendered due to not being able to sell them or even find them homes. So the market is well and truly saturated. Edited June 27, 2023 by Powerlegs 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mairead Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 You have accidentally found a dog that suits you very well, and that's great. If you want to get him a companion your best chance of success would be to contact the breeder of your dog and put in an order for one of similar temperament. As for breeding, it is not as easy as just having any male and any female. The dog you know and love is but one hand in a big deck of cards. His health test results, his siblings, parents, grandparents and other relatives will tell you what other cards might be in the deck but you will still be shuffling those cards and hoping you only get the good ones. Any breeder will tell you that people will say they want a puppy and then when the time comes circumstances have suddenly changed. That is why some breeders ask for a deposit (sometimes nonrefundable) and for people to fill out an application form, or only breed when they have enough people on a waiting list. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 4 hours ago, John Nielsen said: I see heaps of dogs selling on marketplace and gumtree and prices vary from $1000 to $3000. Why is there such a huge variance? Any helpful suggestions/advice greatly appreciated. Cheers Those prices are cheap . As others have already said You will need the dog in your name & be a member of your state body aka Dogsqld. If wanting a bitch you will need to do the waiting period then sit & hopefully pass the breeders exam & then pick a prefix. Qld has different requirements as all puppies need to be DNA tested prior to registration . Depending on the colour of your dog ??Will also depend on if it can be breed with in ANKC . Health testing absolutely especially for IVDD,eyes,VWB & the other few this would apply to male & female & there status as to whether worthy of being bred. Also not all animals should be bred & in Dacchshunds the quality of the back & construction is so important . You then need to factor good mouths,soundness in movement & temperament . The papres wneed to be ANKC Already on mains or the breeder willing to upgrade & you becoming a member for anyone on DOL to be able to use it . There are other registrations so papers could mean anything . I would highly recommend understanding your local council /state law requirements as a breeder then familiarize yourself with ANKC requirements .I already have a line up of friends and family who will take a puppy and before I get howled down this is not a money making venture.Breeders rarely make money but pay out plenty to just get a litter on the ground at the end of the day you will be no more special than anyone else BUT you will be a breeder liable for any issues you bred whether sold to friends or family ( i gather those people are prepared to pay )You will still be bound by your responsibilities as a breeder so infact any sane person breeding is looking for the best /permanment home So at the end of the day you will have DNA fees,microchip,vaccination,worming,registration fees,feeding,time off work potential C section (should always be factored) AI if dog wont mate ,prog tests & the list goes on for expenses . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 11 hours ago, Dogsfevr said: I would highly recommend understanding your local council /state law requirements as a breeder then familiarize yourself with ANKC requirements . This! Lots of councils in Australia now require anyone who wants to breed dogs - even only the once - to put in a DA to become a breeding business. This in turn can have a flow on effect that makes you easy to find for attention from RSPCA, who may decide they want to audit you against the codes of practice for breeding dogs in your state, so you may want to familiarise yourself with those codes, and any other legislation related to the breeding of dogs. T. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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