Dog Attacks in NSW Blamed on Irresponsible Breeders and Covid 19 Lockdown

[Deeds]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-16/dog-attacks-nsw-irresponsible-breeders-covid-19-lockdown/101625342

 

  

[tdierikx]

*facepalm*

[asal]

9 hours ago, tdierikx said:

*facepalm*

 

 

"triple facepalm"

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-13/fatal-dog-attacks-american-staffordshire-terrier/100286872

 

yea, its all the breeders fault for not putting in all the training so the owner doesnt have to do a thing. how you manage that with an 8 to 12 week pup would be nice for those two drips under pressure to explain for us.

 

bogan owners never seem to be held responsible

 

yes blame the deed, didn't train their dog, didn't supervise either the dog or their children or anyone else's for that matter.

 

you dont leave a chainsaw running and blame the kid for losing a hand, a leg or its life.   believe it or not

 

now if you belive that pair of experts, its not the owner responsible its the maker?????????????????????????????

Edited November 16, 2022 by asal

[asal]

mmm another one. a kill and run this time. owner took off after the attack. at least thanks to witnesesses they were tracked down.   if the idiots above are to be believed its the breeder should be facing charges???

 

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-20/staffy-that-killed-adelaide-oval-dog-charli-euthanased/13074436

[coneye]

  2  genuine questions  here

 

1--- Whats  Facepalm

 

2 --- These two  dog behavourists or whatever they are ,, do they do any sort of course  , at uni , a dog centre or whatever  work with vets ,, have to have 5--10---15  years experience of breeding , working , training dogs  or just set themselves up  and call themselves dog behavourists or whatever with no qualifications neccesary , just like a lot of them on U tube  who try to tell you if you buy the lead or 2 inch collar off them  all will be well , but you must subscribe .

 

 

[~Anne~]

Facepalm = imagine someone slapping their forehead in frustration while shaking their head… 

[coneye]

2 hours ago, ~Anne~ said:

Facepalm = imagine someone slapping their forehead in frustration while shaking their head… 

Thanks Ann  i'll give it a  dozen  face palms , then ,, because the second dog  had already shown bad tendencys   attacked  and killed  weeks earlier ,  yet kept around a baby

[Papillon Kisses]

Irresponsible, indiscriminate breeding during the pandemic by people wanting to make a quick buck and fill an unprecedented demand is absolutely part of the problem. Behaviour has a genetic component. It’s not all in how you raise them.

 

And if you don’t think covid contributed to the problem you are misguided. Dogs did not get the positive exposures to life that they would ordinarily get during their critical socialisation period. There were ways to mitigate this but it‘s beyond general dog owner knowledge let alone someone getting a dog for the first time.

 

Yes there is a dog owner factor. The trainers I know put a hell of a lot of a work into shifting to online consults and courses during lockdown, groups like Pet Professional Guild Australia got press coverage about how important it was, but these weren’t universally taken up by dog owners. People either thought puppy classes weren’t on or that online was pointless (it’s not and can actually be better depending on instructor and course content).

 

Regarding the two professionals quoted.

 

Eve McKenzie is a highly experienced, qualified dog trainer. List of her qualifications here: https://www.ppgaustralia.net.au/Sys/PublicProfile/28134445

 

Yes the dog training industry is unregulated and there are a lot of so-called ‘trainers’ and ‘behaviourists’ harming dogs. But Eve isn’t one of those and I wouldn’t fail to recommend her to people in Newcastle area.

 

Dr Kersti Seksel is a veterinary behaviour specialist at Sydney Animal Behaviour Service. That requires a standard veterinary degree then a tonne of further study and examinations in veterinary behaviour medicine. While there are other Behaviour Vets (aka Veterinary behaviourists) I’d refer to first, she absolutely knows her stuff when it comes to diagnosing and treating anxiety and other behavioural illnesses in dogs. She’s highly regarded in the vet industry.

 

Honestly it’s a relief to see quotes from qualified professionals who know what they’re on about instead of the usual idiots who use harmful methods based on long debunked myths.

Edited November 17, 2022 by Papillon Kisses

[coneye]

19 minutes ago, Papillon Kisses said:

Irresponsible, indiscriminate breeding during the pandemic by people wanting to make a quick buck and fill an unprecedented demand is absolutely part of the problem. Behaviour has a genetic component. It’s not all in how you raise them.

 

Thing you hit the nail on the head , but i would go has far has to say its not only during the pandemic it always seems to be whenever i  surge of popularity  about a breed or cross breed rears its head , and has been doing for years .

Think theres another point worth touching on and thats the dog in NSW after it  killed a neighbors dog and obviously shown bad tendencys , the result was

 

.( quote    Central Coast Council confirmed that last month's attack had been registered, and said "the family was undertaking a breed and temperament assessment" at council's request. unquote )

 The south australian dog , was deemed by council to be unsuitable took away and destroyed .... Now i also know personaly , a guy in SA , who's dog is under a dangerous dog order ,its a BIG DOG  great dane cross mastiff  not sure if it killed another dog or attacked a couple , i know its absolutly viscous  with people  ,, , Now  what he has had too do , was appeal against it being destroyed , and he has had too have a escape proof run   inspected by council built , whenever the dog is out of it  the dog MUST now by law  be muzzled ,,, I believe he also has to prove that he is  giving the dog Prozac i think it is to keep it calm ,,, However it won't be long before its took and destroyed he's   still taking it out unmuzzled , in fact i believe not to long ago it cracked the windscreen lunging at a passerby whilst it was in the car unmuzzled ,,  lucky for the passerby it did'nt get out .

Point being though there does seem a difference between states or councils .

probably time to make  a across the board ruling 

 

19 minutes ago, Papillon Kisses said: