Steve82 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) I recently baought my Amstaff puppy from a breeder. There was no talk of a contract before i started paying her off but once i had almost finished paying for her i get blidsided by a contract with things in it i find to be unreasonable. The breeder wants me to stay in contact with her for the life of my dog and want to be able to visit her along with other things. My wife felt that we had no choice but to sign this ridiculous contract or lose our money $3500. Now the breeder is trying to enforce this contract by trying to arrange a check up visit and i don't want her at my house. Where do i stand? Edited September 14, 2022 by Steve82 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Was the contract drawn up by a lawyer? Most aren't. They are written, unenforceable agreements between two parties. Is the puppy microchipped in your name yet? That would be my only concern, not that she can come and take the pup anyway. As a buyer, in most states there's a time limit for the seller to get it done. No idea about ANKC papers being held back? She should have done the home check before parting with the puppy if it was that concerning. Odd. Not sure about Qld but property laws often cover dogs .... if she sold you a car she couldn't expect to come visit it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Tear the 'contract' up and ignore it. It isn't legally enforceable. NO-ONE but those who have power of authority, can enter your home or enforce such a request. Explain to her that you do not want her to contact you. Do not respond to her calls or emails except to clearly state you do not want contact. Then block her number and email. If she persists, seek a restraining order through the local courts. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 1 minute ago, ~Anne~ said: Tear the 'contract' up and ignore it. It isn't legally enforceable. NO-ONE but those who have power of authority, can enter your home or enforce such a request. Explain to her that you do not want her to contact you. Do not respond to her calls or emails except to clearly state you do not want contact. Then block her number and email. If she persists, seek a restraining order through the local courts. Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 An extra question. Can ankc papers be held back if this breeder doesn't get what they want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 If they sold the pups as registered pedigree with papers, then the buyer has to get what they purchased. Its a commercial transaction. It would go to small claims I think. They could potentially claim a part refund as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, ~Anne~ said: If they sold the pups as registered pedigree with papers, then the buyer has to get what they purchased. Its a commercial transaction. It would go to small claims I think. They could potentially claim a part refund as well. That makes sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 As a breeder I would be sad not to at least receive an occasional email letting me know how the pup/dog was going. But it's not something I'd put in a contract. Same with visiting. I'd ask if we could have a meet up if I was in their neck of the woods, wouldn't care if it was at a park, not their home. But again not in a contract. But it is helpful to see how dogs turned out. My youngest litter is 5. And the 2 I sold are in different states so I'd only see them if I happened to be on holidays 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 @Rebanne true, I can't force people to stay in contact but it's nice isn't it. I love to see how they're going. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 If you didn’t agree to the terms of the agreement prior to purchase, then the breeder legally cannot enforce it. A puppy sale is like any other sale. Offer, acceptance and consideration. A contract cannot be introduced or implied after the event. I have been through a situation like this personally and the breeder, despite all of their efforts, bullying and getting friends in high places to do somewhat illegal things, didn’t win. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneye Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Bit of a double edged sword really is'nt it ,, i bought a shepard from a breeder , and a staffy from a breeder , well other dogs has well from breeders , but i mention these two because both of them breeders on pick up asked if they could contact me later to see how the dogs were doing ,, i was actually pleased with that , to me it just sort of reiforced that i had chose the right dog from the right breeder they cared about there dogs ,,,, However i don't think i would of agreed if they demanded it , the staffy breeder did actually follow it up but then asked me to show him and stud him , i said no i was'nt interested in showing , and i was'nt bothered about giving him a tate then taking it away just for a couple of dollars ,,, she jokingly said i should of kept him he turned out the best ,, but don't think deep down she was joking LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellz Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 On 16/9/2022 at 9:57 AM, Powerlegs said: An extra question. Can ankc papers be held back if this breeder doesn't get what they want? Short answer is NO. Registration papers belong to the controlling body and are required to go with the dog. If the papers aren’t handed to the new owner, they should contact the controlling body in writing with the facts so that the situation can be followed up on. Most states have a 7-14 day limit for the papers to be handed over and the breeder can be brought in front of the judiciary for not doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diva Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) Deleted as I just noticed how old the request for advice is. I’m sure it must be sorted by now. Edited January 22, 2023 by Diva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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