asal Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) no one seems to be discussing the pending legislation if they get it through, no bitch to have more than 2 litters before desexing. n vet certificate as fit for breeding or cant breed 2nd litter. if you own more than 3 must be a registered business. there must be minimum 1 staff for every 5 dogs and staff on hand 24/7 is what I have been told is already drafted and waiting to get passed in nsw parliament. so much for eliminating puppy farms only the likes of kellyville pets will be allowed to breed once this is law. that will bel all that is left. no council is going to let you run a "businness" in Sydney or its suburbs, many country towns eg Dorrigo wont let you have an undesexed bitch unless she is housed in and air conditioned shed. That became law there almost 3 years ago now? dont see a peep from the ankc in my emails or here or have it missed it??????? Edited October 16, 2021 by asal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asal Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share Posted October 18, 2021 https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/bill/files/3885/First Print.pdf https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/bill/files/3885/XN Companion Animals Amendment (Puppy Farms) Bill 2021.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Oh Crap! What idiocy. I'm in NZ but this requires fighting. Are the KCs lobbying? Are there petitions circulating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossumCorner Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Probably not Sandy - a lot of dirty legislation in connection with livestock has been pushed through under the Covid cloud, not noticed by most people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Parliamentary petition against this legislation... https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/la/Pages/ePetition-details.aspx?q=qBOar3qjYoueNu%2FqGMaIEQ%3D%3D&fbclid=IwAR1O6-uwz4GQZ_trCox454E0Xm1bi7qwqYWeovPMymtsKRnNQ3KF4lKJJtE T. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosmum Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, tdierikx said: Parliamentary petition against this legislation... https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/la/Pages/ePetition-details.aspx?q=qBOar3qjYoueNu%2FqGMaIEQ%3D%3D&fbclid=IwAR1O6-uwz4GQZ_trCox454E0Xm1bi7qwqYWeovPMymtsKRnNQ3KF4lKJJtE T. Thanks for that link T, made it easy when I have other crap taking my resources. I hope a lot more people sign, share, and spread the word. This stuff is only helpful in reducing the benefits of Domestic animals in the lives of our communities. It does not improve welfare considerations for those animals still kept despite the legislation, or aid people to understand their responsibilities. It is the imposition of an objective set of standards where subjective values are the only viable application for the continuation of Domestic animals. Edited October 20, 2021 by moosmum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossumCorner Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 10 hours ago, moosmum said: .... I hope a lot more people sign, share, and spread the word. .... I've signed in spirit: but it is only for NSW residents. and I'm watching the wrongness from home in central Vic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray27 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) Thanks have signed the petition! Some of the laws seem (at first glance) to be in favour of animals,such as record keeping, but there are so many confused & downright dangerous pieces of legislation, such as the numbers of "staff" required, that once again seem to be enabling puppy farms yet penalising smaller more intimate breeders & family homes. There are people granted that do the wrong thing, but pieces of legislation that seem bent on supporting large scale farm like establishment breeders of dogs and cats, yet penalise smaller breeders that want to give their animals the run of the family home, are not doing anyone any favours. When I choose a new puppy and future family member,I want the benefits of socialisation that a smaller scale breeder can give- a dog that is used to all the sights & sounds of a family environment- not behind doors of a barn or kennel at the back of a property- no matter how many staff or vets that have been involved. Edited October 21, 2021 by Ray27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asal Posted October 25, 2021 Author Share Posted October 25, 2021 On 21/10/2021 at 11:49 PM, Ray27 said: Thanks have signed the petition! Some of the laws seem (at first glance) to be in favour of animals,such as record keeping, but there are so many confused & downright dangerous pieces of legislation, such as the numbers of "staff" required, that once again seem to be enabling puppy farms yet penalising smaller more intimate breeders & family homes. There are people granted that do the wrong thing, but pieces of legislation that seem bent on supporting large scale farm like establishment breeders of dogs and cats, yet penalise smaller breeders that want to give their animals the run of the family home, are not doing anyone any favours. When I choose a new puppy and future family member,I want the benefits of socialisation that a smaller scale breeder can give- a dog that is used to all the sights & sounds of a family environment- not behind doors of a barn or kennel at the back of a property- no matter how many staff or vets that have been involved. well this one will also end puppy farms too though, no puppy farm could remain viable if they can only breed 2 litters and the bitch desexed. well unless the prices go over the 10 to 20,000 mark? come to think of it, they probably will. people will have to pay or they cant have a dog, simple as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Bills like this get thrown up often. It encourages debate and action, which is good, and it helps prevent laws and ideas becoming ineffective and out of date. There has to be pretty strong support for a Bill to pass through and, even then, there’s more work and debate for it to move forward again if it is passed initially. I can’t see this one going anywhere. I don’t think there is much support. Debate was adjourned on it late last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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