Dog Poo bags left at the Beach

[Inventif]

Hi there,

 

I have seen dog poo bags left on the beach and am wondering why people don't throw them away ? What are your thoughts, why do people leave them on the beach ?

[sheena]

I will sometimes leave my bag while I continue to walk my dogs & then pick it up on the way back.  Hard to walk three border collies plus one or two poo bags, that's why I pick it up on the way back.  When at the beach, if my dogs poop, I dig a deep hole & bury it.  Far more natural & environmentally friendly than putting one poo per single use bag then chucking it into landfill.

 

[jemappelle]

I have a Hound Bag which has a lined in plastic section to put the full doggy bags, so no smell.  It also has little pockets to dispense the poo bags from and another section for your keys, phone etc.  I love it and have had it for many years.

[Loving my Oldies]

On 19/08/2019 at 10:11 AM, Inventif said:

Hi there,

 

I have seen dog poo bags left on the beach and am wondering why people don't throw them away ? What are your thoughts, why do people leave them on the beach ?

Not just the beach:  on my footpath, hanging on fences, stuck in trees, in my freshly emptied recyling bin.  People can be very lazy and very disgusting.    

[Pjrt]

I started a debate here years ago on the subject of depositing properly bagged dog doo into domestic bins out for collection. I was acrually shocked that people would be opposed to putting bagged doodoo into a domestic bin on a suburban street that was clearly out for collection, but had not yet been collected. There are so few bins in suburban back streets. To me a bin is a bin. And I’d rather find bagged doos in my bin even after collection, than people just leave it on the footpath or verge to be stepped in. Obviously bagging it and taking it home is gold standard if your out walking in the suburbs, but if you’re walking for an hour or more, and don’t find any other bins than domestic ones....

As for the beach, pick it up and remove it from the beach. And take it home or put it in a bin. I’d be a bit cranky if my kid was digging a hole at the beach, as kids do, and hit a buried treasure. 

[Loving my Oldies]

34 minutes ago, Scratch said:

 And I’d rather find bagged doos in my bin even after collection, than people just leave it on the footpath or verge to be stepped in.

In your recycling bin??  

[Pjrt]

4 minutes ago, Loving my Oldies said:

In your recycling bin??  

I’d hope people could manage to put it in the general waste bin, not the recycling bin. But at the end of the day I’m getting so much less angry as I get older that I’d just have a momentary groan, rectify the situation and move on, and be glad someone at least tried to pick up and dispose at all! 

[Carita]

Lake Macquarie Council provides bags for dog  & food waste  & both are put in the green bin with garden waste for weekly collection.

Cat poo is not suitable

[sandgrubber]

8 hours ago, Carita said:

Lake Macquarie Council provides bags for dog  & food waste  & both are put in the green bin with garden waste for weekly collection.

Cat poo is not suitable

But it's suitable for cats to do their business in the neighbors garden... or sandbox? 

[Carita]

Cat poo often holds the parasite toxoplasmosis which can live in the soil & transmitted to humans.

 

I found setting a cat trap keeps cat poo from my garden.

When caught, I just have to  ring the council & the Ranger collects trap & cat returning the empty trap next day.

They determine if the cat is microchipped or  likely to be adopted . If it doesnt pass the test it gets euthanised. 

it's a great system.

[tdierikx]

Simple etiquette dictates removing (read pick it up and dispose of in a rubbish receptacle) any mess your animal makes in a public area... those who think it's OK to leave it lying there for others to "enjoy" only make it more difficult for those who do do the right thing. This is why there are so few areas we are allowed to take our pets... *sigh*

 

As for allowing cats to roam... I'm definitely not a fan of that at all. Why get a pet if you are just going to have it rack off all over the neighbourhood instead of enjoying it at your own place? Please keep them on your own property... it's a dangerous world out there for roaming pets.

 

T.

[Carita]

I abhor cruelty to any animal and as a vegetarian I respect every animals life, but that also includes our native animals.

I live near a forest and a protected wetland & without qualm I believe I am doing the right thing by protecting native animals from feral cats.

These cats that most likely will be euthanised are not your cuddly moggy. 

They are huge  & nasty as the hiss,spit & swipe when I try to feed them until they are collected.

The Ranger has the ability to scan them for a chip & if found they re returned to their owner.

If not scanned   they  have an ability to be  adopted out if not wildly feral.

 

I stand by my statement in that its a great system.

4 hours ago, Snook said:

While I hate cats roaming and jumping on my back fence or in my yard and setting my dog off, I hardly think cats ending up euthanised is a great system. Yes, owners should be more responsible and have cats microchipped and keep them contained, but you sound a bit too comfortable with them ending up dead if owners don't do that. 

 

[persephone]

 

 

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, Carita said:

They determine if the cat is microchipped or  likely to be adopted . If it doesnt pass the test it gets euthanised. 

 

There are way too many cats , and those who roam, causing wildlife deaths , spreading toxo , feline AIDS, producing kittens each Spring ..it's out of control  
I love cats , and  know the best place for them is safely enclosed in an owner's home , themselves protected , and in turn,  keeping wildlife  safe from predation 

[leac1801]

11 hours ago, Snook said:

While I hate cats roaming and jumping on my back fence or in my yard and setting my dog off, I hardly think cats ending up euthanised is a great system. Yes, owners should be more responsible and have cats microchipped and keep them contained, but you sound a bit too comfortable with them ending up dead if owners don't do that. 

Our street is over run by feral cats, they don't belong to anyone to keep them contained and microchip them. The ones that live in the front yard of the house across the road have had at least two litters in the less than 12 months we've been here; they've gone from 6 to about 20. The rescues are bursting at the seams as it is, and there's no homes for them.

[Two Best Dogs!]

I have a very similar street. I would be more than happy to catch cats and hand them over to the council. Euthanasia would be much kinder than foxes, traffic or getting cornered in my yard by the dogs. 

 

Today i came out to a dead bird in my front yard. Last week I photographed a rather portly cat in the frog and bird sanctuary. I frequently see them dead on the road. I don’t see it as kind to the cats or local wildlife to leave them roaming. 

 

On the dog poop front. My local dog park has had huge issues with poop being left lately. The fenced area is shared with a football club who wants to make it on lead only (because this stops poop?)

 

the group is being really proactive in reminding people to pick up their poop and any poop they see - or dog owners lose access. 

Its been noticed that although the council provides poo bags, they’ve been empty more often than not lately. So remember to bring bags!

[persephone]

8 hours ago, leac1801 said:

The rescues are bursting at the seams as it is, and there's no homes for them.

exactly ...cats breed at such a rate ...kittens are hidden away  until they are able to run - they sadly become pregnant while still babies - and on it goes , while well meaning cat owners STILL believe their tiddles or fluffy-bum NEEDS to roam outside . 
I was once like that ..a lifetime ago  in the big City 
Cats out during daytime/locked away at night . That proved to be not enough  for their safety , and(over a period of 15 yrs)  losing one to an irate neighbour , one to a nasty driver , and almost losing another to a car -  having worked with cats suffering feline AIDS , seeing pregnant kittens, cats & possums after fights, & various other things ..a 24/7 cat curfew cannot come quick enough . That, and a big crackdown on ferals to help wildlife in urban areas especially ! 
Birdscaping is becoming so popular , and is SUCH a wonderful thing to do ,but sadly we have an army of predators taking advantage of backyards  full of nests/fledglings/birds with full bellies, or so overweight they are a bit slow .  
Cats are glorious animals , they belong in a protected environment to be cossetted and loved  and kept from both being a danger , and from encountering danger.

A whole 'nother subject is the feral cat problem in Outback Australia ..where they  can grow as big as a small kelpie ..can take down baby lambs/goat kids , and are quite capable of arguing with foxes. Heart-stoppingly  beautiful to watch when they are hunting - but so, so destructive  and deadly

apologies .. this was way off-topic  

Edited August 25, 2019 by persephone

[twodoggies2001]

I don't mind if my bin is out on rubbish collection day and someone chooses to put their poo bag in there.  That's OK but I do object to someone walking up my drive to get to my rubbish bin and deposit their poo bag instead of taking it home to their own bin.  To me that is trespassing.  

[Pjrt]

I know the cat thing is a bit off topic here, but I just cannot fathom how someone can say a cat is theirs, an animal they claim ownership of, profess to love, often deeply, but are willing to open the door every morning and see them off to fend for themselves for the day. That is not responsible nor love. My cats do get outside, but are fenced on my property and locked inside EVERY time I leave my property, even if it’s a 5 minute return trip to check my PO Box down the street or walk next door to the neighbours. I view my cats ability to understand the perils they face outside of my property as about equivalent to a toddler. None of us would expect a toddler to keep themselves safe if wandering at large. At least toddlers wouldn’t decimate wildlife. I get so irate and find I have little sympathy every day when I see multiple lost cat posts on lost pet pages with the owners wailing and moaning about how upset they are that ‘fluffy always comes home for dinner, or is never gone this long’. How about you just don’t open the damn door, or supervise outdoor time! 

I myself have taken nuisance cats to the pound. If they are genuinely loved and missed and properly identified then someone should come and get them. If they have been well bred and reared, and kept healthy, they should be suitable for adoption. If they have been let down by their owners and the system it is certainly unfortunate. But I really feel whether unclaimed strays are adopted or euthanised, it’s preferable to a life on the street where their  health, safety and welfare are perilous. I also think feeding individual cats, and colonies, that are not conducive to human interaction to the point where they would integrate as house pets, is misplaced welfare, empathy, whatever. 

I know none of it is the animals fault. Bloody humans  

[Carita]

No worrries @Snook.

I have no issues with euthanasia .. I belong to parties hoping to get it legalised for humans throughout Australia.

Optional not compulsory  

 

Back to topic... I picked up a bag of poo in the park this morning & put it in the bin on my way out.

There could be someone still there searching for that bag they intended to collect on their way out.

[Carita]

I've found a wonderful leash free park even though I drive past  a designer label park with all the bells & whistles yet frequently has dogs fighting  & the sign on the gate warns of parvo & kennel cough. Some days there can be 20 dogs there or my boy is the only dog on other days.

Its wonderful to see them socialise & a great mix of breeds.

 

Picking up some strangers  dogs poo doesnt even register on the yuk scale but I often balk at the things I pick up in the adjacent carpark.

Emptied ashtrays disgusts me, as does used condoms, tiny plastic clip lock bags one even had white powder in it.

Last week I picked up a bong, pink ecstasy tablet , 75 steel whipping cream gas cylinders & numerous balloons.

wiki explained the balloons/cylinders use, but I realise I left the cracker top behind not realising it was part of the activity. 

I dont want any dog to pick up these things & am thankful they only occur at night. 

I could ask a ranger to patrol the area but with my luck he'll pick up a dog running from the carpark to the dog park.