juice Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Mine randomly comes undone too . I made a comment to a friend this week when she posted a pic of a Dane she was minding with a prong on . They just leave them in in the US . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malamum Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) On 16/05/2019 at 12:40 PM, juice said: Mine randomly comes undone too . I made a comment to a friend this week when she posted a pic of a Dane she was minding with a prong on . They just leave them in in the US . So does mine! It has only ever happened when I've been the one to put it on so we have put it down to user error on my part. I'm wondering if some of the links have less flex than others and when joining on that link my fingers are not quite strong enough to squeeze it tight enough to get the prongs all the way past the little curve they have half way down. I would never ever leave it on my dog unsupervised or even if I was not at the other end of the leash. My dog is an adolescent and still prone to a bit of exuberance and excitement so using the prong collar means he gets to come everywhere with us without it becoming an unpleasant experience for us, him or people around us. We take him to cafes and restaurants and I also took him to my nephews soccer game the other week and whilst lots of other dogs were pulling and lunging against their leashes he just sat at my feet and we all enjoyed a nice morning out. I even had someone comment that they don't bring their dogs places like that as its just too much hard work so the dog stays at home. IMO being able to come almost everywhere with us totally outweighs any aversion to using a corrective tool. Also I've put in on my leg to test it and it's uncomfortable at most, not painful. We also walk in a fairly high traffic area and his impulse control around other dogs is a work in progress as he just gets excited and wants to say hi so the collar stops him encroaching on other people's and their dog's space. It means walks are pleasant and not a chore and no one gets frustrated. Edited May 18, 2019 by Malamum Fixing an auto-correct 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascalmyshadow Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I guess humans can turn any device into something harmful, I lost track of the amount of customers with flat collars that were way too tight, harnesses fitted poorly and even put on twisted, abcessses caused by choke chains, head collars that had caused damage around the muzzle, even had an Airedale that had a hole burnt in his throat from a shock collar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamuzz Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 @Malamum Interesting. I have three prongs from Steve - K9.pro. The first one I bought before he had the Sprenger brand. It comes undone in random places. Then I have two Sprengers. One also comes undone. Always at the same place even when I rearrange the links. That does my head in. And the third one is absolutely fine. My three dogs are walked in a prong, a necktech and a flat collar. As Steve always said to me - use the tool that works for you and your dogs. In my case I'm walking dogs with a combined weight of over 100 kgs so I like the extra safety of a prong in case we meet say a pussy cat. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempus Fugit Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Rascalmyshadow said: even had an Airedale that had a hole burnt in his throat from a shock collar. So was it a genuine burn from the electric current or pressure necrosis? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascalmyshadow Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tempus Fugit said: So was it a genuine burn from the electric current or pressure necrosis? The vets assesssed it and it was a burn, I’ve seen a lot of things working with dogs but this was a first. This was probably about 10 years ago, I don’t know if the collars have changed much since then, I also don’t know if it was being used correctly. Edited May 16, 2019 by Rascalmyshadow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t a i l s. Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I'd be suspicious the dog has an issue with the the metal from the prongs of the e-collar rather than a burn. Similar with prong collars, some dogs appear to be allergic to the metals, hence the reason you can now buy different varieties and obtain different plugs for the higher quality remote collars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 31 minutes ago, t a i l s. said: I'd be suspicious the dog has an issue with the the metal from the prongs of the e-collar rather than a burn. Similar with prong collars, some dogs appear to be allergic to the metals, hence the reason you can now buy different varieties and obtain different plugs for the higher quality remote collars. I find it difficult to believe there was a burn ... the prongs don't either heat up ..or shoot out sparks ...whichever it was , I hope the poor dog was OK, and its owners weren't . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 On 5/16/2019 at 4:27 PM, Rascalmyshadow said: I guess humans can turn any device into something harmful, I lost track of the amount of customers with flat collars that were way too tight, harnesses fitted poorly and even put on twisted, abcessses caused by choke chains, head collars that had caused damage around the muzzle, even had an Airedale that had a hole burnt in his throat from a shock collar. E-collars can be good training tools, though they are not a silver bullet, and I'm sure there are fools who try to use them as a behavioral on-off switch (and fail). There is absolutely no value in a collar that shocks enough to burn...in most cases you want them to tickle, only. I think most trainers would be fine with banning e-collars that give strong shocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascalmyshadow Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 I have never used one of these collars and honestly don’t know anything about them, I do know it was always on the dog (was a regular client) and I assume the vets were correct however there is always the possibility they weren’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamuzz Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Post from Steve on prong collars http://blog.k9pro.com.au/prong-collars-e-collars-why/?fbclid=IwAR2YeOi-xFKV5ad8IkAgFs3KpVgHbbYPWrGudI8g4X5ufs_GtKANge9ZlCE 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddybeans Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I use the gentle leader harness. I often get comments from people who has never used the gentle leader harness that’s it’s such a weird design because the lead attached and swung in from the side which is the whole point to stop them from pulling? i find it works better for my two than just the regularly collar and leash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miru Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 My dog went through a phase of lunging at interesting things, just about pulling my arm out of its socket. I have been training leash manners in her from the very start, but there are still a couple of things (birds, other dogs) that are super exciting. I used a K9 Bridle on her on the advice of my trainer until she could control herself better. I don't like the thing, she doesn't like the thing, but it was never used as a punishment (no yanking from me) so she learned that it only tightened when she, herself lunged. Now she's 98% of the time controlling her own behaviour in just a flat collar, even when something is really exciting. I help her along by asking her to sit and focus on a high-value reward for controlling herself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomiandme Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 What I use is a harness since he would try to really run and I feel like he's choking when I use a collar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 3 hours ago, tomiandme said: What I use is a harness since he would try to really run and I feel like he's choking when I use a collar. does he still pull with the harness ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillyrubyjane Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I used martingale collar for my dog when we're walking, I still used that when I want training my dog. My dog won't feel choked whenever I trying to correct them. I recommend Martingale heavy duty nylon collar, this collar is also made of stainless steel with sizes between 18 inch and 26 inch neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsfevr Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Slip collar or martingale & lead training from a baby .Very simple process & yes i own large dogs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 On 5/16/2019 at 2:40 PM, juice said: Mine randomly comes undone too . I made a comment to a friend this week when she posted a pic of a Dane she was minding with a prong on . They just leave them in in the US . Some people do. But in all the years I lived in US, I never saw it outside of the South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheena Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I use a front attach harness on my young boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Avanti* Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) I have found the Black Dog balance harness works well for my dog, a really good trainer recommended it. It is quite adjustable, attaches at the front and I clip it to his collar as well with a two-ended lead. It find it reduces pulling. https://www.blackdog.net.au/dog-harnesses/balance-harness Edited June 2, 2020 by *Avanti* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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