Advice please

[Dachshundowner10]

If you bought a show/breeding quality dog and paid big $$$ for it to find out it has a hereditary condition and advised by a specialist not to breed, what would you do in terms of contacting the breeder? Would you ask for some sort of refund? What if the breeder reacts in denial even if you have proof? 

 

[Diva]

I would certainly let the breeder know, they need to if they are to avoid reproducing the problem. Whether I would seek a refund would depend on a number of things.  Is there a contract with the breeder and if so what does it say about health guarantees?  Is this a problem the breeder should reasonably have screened for, or is it something out of the blue?   Sometimes things go wrong with animals that could not have been foreseen. I would only ever sell a dog as show/breeding ‘potential’, no guarantees as too much can do wrong even in a promising puppy. But if the breeder promised it was breeding quality that changes things a bit.  I would also get a second opinion on the condition.

[Rebanne]

as above ^^^^ Good advice.

[JRG]

In Victoria there are regulations (or soon will be*) regarding what compensation you are entitled to according to the status of the breeder and the age of the dog,  but, as stated above, you must keep the breeder informed and allow access to reports etc and an opportunity for them to get their own vet opinion.

* the laws are changing and I am not sure where we are at present!!

[sandgrubber]

There are vets who think all modern Daschunds are deformed creatures that shouldn't be bred. 

[asal]

I know a vet has told an owner their pup has a an inherited deformity , forget what it was called at the moment, caused elbow pain, when we looked it up, what it did say was not to use an affected dog as the condition  "may be hereditary" .  More questions to find the elbow has a bone chip? that to me says injury, hope the breeder gets a second opinion.

 

A few years ago a friend who bred labradors received a phone call to tell her she was going to be billed $6,000 for elbow surgery to a pup she had bred, and given away to a friend as she had suffered a bad allergic reaction to her vaccinations. The owners vet said the pup had elbow displacia and both elbows needed surgery immediately.

 

told to request a second opinion, her own vet discovered the now six month old pup, not only weighed more than her 5 year old mum,  had fractures in both elbows and the owners admitted she had been jumping off a 7' verandah. Yet the first vet had said inherited "elbow displacia"?

 

Some vets, as mine once commented, now have their graduation certificates "but they then are going to learn at your expense." So many new vets today diagnose everything they see as inherited, even injury caused conditions?

 

Hope the poster's vet isn't one of them.

Edited March 8, 2019 by asal

[Dogsfevr]

Personally I find it bad form to ask on forums instead of simply phoning the breeder and discussing what you vet has potentially found .

I would expect anyone that has brought a potential show /breeding puppy to have built up a good relationship with there breeder and able to talk freely about the issue,the breed and health ( well health discussed before purchase).

 

 

But as you plan to become a breeder this is your reality so how would you deal with it when you breed a pup with an issue?

 

But as a point of interest can this issue be cleared by parentage tested,when the vet says hereditary what did they base that opinion on .

No one can tell you for sure without being privy to the actual vet report or seeing the actual x rays or what ever the issue has been deemed .

 

Like others have said some vets are clueless ,use the wrong words but this is when phoning your breeder first asking for help would have been the best thing .

They May ask for a second opinion at there expense and yes we have done that as a puppy owner contacted us all agressive and pissy over there vets findings .

Upon the xrays being sent to us blind Freddie could see how there vet got it so terribly wrong ,we arranged for a 3 neutral opinion due to the attitude of these buyers who soon realised what fools they had made of themselves and so much could have been sorted out if they just phoned us in the first place 

 

 

Yes I have brought dogs that didn’t make the grade also breed dogs that either didn’t turn into the show potential it displayed .Also imported a dog that we couldn’t breed from ,shit happens 

I have also breed dogs with hereditary issues where no DNA testing is available just yearly testing to tell me whether clear or not ,they could be clear for life but carry the marker to produce it to a bitch in the same boat