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[HunterDoggy]

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Edited December 4, 2018 by HunterDoggy

[Diva]

The Dogzonline main pages have a section where registered ANKC breeders can advertise older dogs. Sometimes they are retired from breeding but quite often they just didn’t work out as show dogs or were returned to the breeder as adults for some reason and need new homes. 

 

There are are a couple listed there now. The other good option is to contact your state breed club and ask if they know of any older dogs seeking homes. 

 

https://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/mature/cavalier-king-charles-spaniel.asp

[juice]

Yes they often do. All my Bull Terriers have been breeding dogs. Non were ever listed it was a case of asking if any were available and matching up. I now have 2 girls from the same breeder and wouldn't go anywhere else as i like his dogs.

Breeders can be a funny lot and you have to jump through hoops to prove yourself so be prepared, write a nice email about your current dog and lifestyle. Mine had to be desexed before i was allowed to take them and thats all the fee i paid, but more popular breeds you will pay more for.

Its a good way of getting an older dog as they are often house, lead and crate trained too.

I have seen older Cavs advertised on the breed pages.

[Dogsfevr]

Contact the Cavalier club in Victoria they also deal with breed rescue but have a great community net for adult rehomes .
Yes breeders will rehome older dogs that may not have made the potential in the show ring or retired from breeding & will rehome when those perfect pet homes come along .
Be prepared to wait but make yourself known & if you are a great "pet" home trust breeders are always on the look out for these kind of homes for older dogs as most don't rehome without alot of thought
 

[Tassie]

All of the above … and be aware that some particularly careful breeders will have a trial period … often about 3 months,.... to see if the bitch has settled in the new home and all is going well, and that it's been a good fit.   So if you encounter that .. it's not personal … just a breeder who wants the absolute best for their mature dogs as well as their puppies.

Edited October 23, 2018 by Tassie

[The Spotted Devil]

And to answer the question in your title... mine are spayed then continue to be actively trained and trialled in dog sports and live in the house. Nothing changes except for the desexing. 

[Rebanne]

3 hours ago, The Spotted Devil said:

And to answer the question in your title... mine are spayed then continue to be actively trained and trialled in dog sports and live in the house. Nothing changes except for the desexing. 

same with mine "cept for the training bit LOL

[HunterDoggy]

On 22/10/2018 at 4:34 PM, Dogsfevr said:

Contact the Cavalier club in Victoria they also deal with breed rescue but have a great community net for adult rehomes .
Yes breeders will rehome older dogs that may not have made the potential in the show ring or retired from breeding & will rehome when those perfect pet homes come along .
Be prepared to wait but make yourself known & if you are a great "pet" home trust breeders are always on the look out for these kind of homes for older dogs as most don't rehome without alot of thought
 

What is considered a good “pet” home? We are moving in the next two months to a single story home with a nice backyard that has grass. It’s just my husband and I, no children currently. I am home during most of the day on weekdays so our dog we have now is left alone for approx an hour and a half each morning and each afternoon. Our dog sleeps inside on our bed, goes on a walk everyday, has a ton of toys to play with, etc. Are these the type of thing people look at for a “pet” home?

[HunterDoggy]

Thanks for the replies by the way everyone! I’ve been reading them and checking into the websites. It’s good to be informed and prepared for when the time comes. 

 

One thing I do worry about is our current dog has been diagnosed with anxiety and OCD. We have spoken to his vet behaviourist that we see and she has suggested that a mature calm female cavalier will be well suited to him that’s why we want to take this path. I do worry that breeders / people rehoming their dogs will judge this and not want to rehome their dog with us because of this reason. We are a great dog family and I know that our current dog will really love having another dog around and I think it will actually help him in ways (not that we are getting another dog to help him). Do you think when the time comes that I explain in detail about his conditions when contacting people? I’m not sure how I should go about it.

[Selkie]

I think you seem to have very clear, well thought out reasons for wanting the sex and breed of dog that you do. The fact that you have sought help from a behaviourist shows you are willing to learn to improve the wellbeing of your dog.

 

I would just be honest about your lifestyle, what you can offer a dog, and what you are looking for in a dog.

[Dogsfevr]

3 hours ago, HunterDoggy said:

Thanks for the replies by the way everyone! I’ve been reading them and checking into the websites. It’s good to be informed and prepared for when the time comes. 

 

One thing I do worry about is our current dog has been diagnosed with anxiety and OCD. We have spoken to his vet behaviourist that we see and she has suggested that a mature calm female cavalier will be well suited to him that’s why we want to take this path. I do worry that breeders / people rehoming their dogs will judge this and not want to rehome their dog with us because of this reason. We are a great dog family and I know that our current dog will really love having another dog around and I think it will actually help him in ways (not that we are getting another dog to help him). Do you think when the time comes that I explain in detail about his conditions when contacting people? I’m not sure how I should go about it.

Yes you need to share this info ,it’s crucial in deciding if an adult in question is the right match.

Dogs are generally placed out on a trial basis which is very important because if your dog doesn’t accept a new friend you would need to consider what is the best outcome .

Contact the Cavie club and talk with them ,They are a great of people who work with each other well and have a good network and understand your dogs issues 

[HunterDoggy]

13 hours ago, Selkie said:

I think you seem to have very clear, well thought out reasons for wanting the sex and breed of dog that you do. The fact that you have sought help from a behaviourist shows you are willing to learn to improve the wellbeing of your dog.

 

I would just be honest about your lifestyle, what you can offer a dog, and what you are looking for in a dog.

Thank you very much Selkie. We want everything to go well and get the perfect fit for our family so hopefully things go well when the time is right.

[HunterDoggy]

9 hours ago, Dogsfevr said:

Yes you need to share this info ,it’s crucial in deciding if an adult in question is the right match.

Dogs are generally placed out on a trial basis which is very important because if your dog doesn’t accept a new friend you would need to consider what is the best outcome .

Contact the Cavie club and talk with them ,They are a great of people who work with each other well and have a good network and understand your dogs issues 

Thank you. I’ll get in contact with them. As our behaviourist has said, it may take a long time but we need to be sure to get the right fit for our family. I’d love to have another dog join our family as we have so much love to give so hopefully we do find that perfect fur baby that matches well with us.

[Papillon Kisses]

Hi Hunter, my dog also has generalised anxiety and OCD.

 

I recommend getting your existing dog’s anxiety disorders well managed/stabilised before considering another dog as dogs like ours do not typically cope well with change. Good stress is still stress physiologically. Be prepared for a potential setback.

 

If you’re still keen and ready, I’d suggest a dog who has been raised in the home not a kennel to decrease the risk of finding yourself with two special needs dogs due to insufficient socialisation. Some breeders seem to think that taking dogs to shows is sufficient socialisation which it isn’t. Likewise a dog might be very comfortable living in the country but struggle big time being in the suburbs, so that’s another thing to consider. I’d try to find a trainer who can do temperament testing of a potential dog or even search for you. Your VB may be able to make a recommendation or check the Pet Professional Guild Australia website.

 

I’m glad you seem to want a second dog for yourself rather than as a magic cure for your dog, and that you’re considering whether it’s something he wants. Just please be careful that your dog is in a good state before going ahead and try to avoid making the mistake of taking on another anxious dog. As much as I adore them, I know life is stressful and expensive enough with one!

[HunterDoggy]

17 hours ago, Papillon Kisses said:

Hi Hunter, my dog also has generalised anxiety and OCD.

 

I recommend getting your existing dog’s anxiety disorders well managed/stabilised before considering another dog as dogs like ours do not typically cope well with change. Good stress is still stress physiologically. Be prepared for a potential setback.

 

If you’re still keen and ready, I’d suggest a dog who has been raised in the home not a kennel to decrease the risk of finding yourself with two special needs dogs due to insufficient socialisation. Some breeders seem to think that taking dogs to shows is sufficient socialisation which it isn’t. Likewise a dog might be very comfortable living in the country but struggle big time being in the suburbs, so that’s another thing to consider. I’d try to find a trainer who can do temperament testing of a potential dog or even search for you. Your VB may be able to make a recommendation or check the Pet Professional Guild Australia website.

 

I’m glad you seem to want a second dog for yourself rather than as a magic cure for your dog, and that you’re considering whether it’s something he wants. Just please be careful that your dog is in a good state before going ahead and try to avoid making the mistake of taking on another anxious dog. As much as I adore them, I know life is stressful and expensive enough with one!

Thanks for your comment. It’s honest and sensible advice! What are the main issues your dog deals with due to their anxiety and OCD? Our main issue is with food. But we have a good routine down. He gets fed outside and if we were to get another dog they would be completely seperate at that time of day so it wouldn’t effect the other dog. 

 

I have thought if we should get another dog or not and I’ll continue to do so and speak with my husband about it but for now like you said, we are just working with our current dog on his issues. We will be back to see his VB again in January so we won’t be doing anything before then! 

 

It’s very hard to explain over text / in a forum but our dogs main anxiety issues are when he is outside the house (getting nervous around people and dogs he doesn’t know, getting scared by loud noises, ect). He does bark at birds when at home but overall is a great dog, very loving and playful so I do think another perfectly suited dog will be great.

[asal]

my sister had a dog with anxiety issues, came to my place and with my dogs for company she was fine, there is no one solution they are like people all different. good luck

[kamuzz]

@HunterDoggy different breeders may have different processes. I've had dogs with very little asked in advance by the breeder, and no contact afterwards.  After all, breeders are people too!

 

And mine have been found from the DOL mature dogs page Diva linked to.