persephone Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) disturbing images , sorry . ( thanks for reminding me, Thistle ) A dog in a pet carrier designed to fit under an airline seat died after a flight attendant ordered its owner to instead put it in a plane's overhead locker on a United Airlines flight from Houston to New York. When the plane landed, the black French bulldog's owner found it dead, passenger Maggie Gremminger said on Twitter. "She sat in the airplane aisle on the floor crying, and all of [the] surrounding passengers were utterly stunned," Ms Gremminger said. The dog was travelling with its owner, and her baby and young daughter, passenger June Lara said in a Facebook post. "I held her baby as the mother attempted to resuscitate their 10-month-old puppy," he said. "I cried with them three minutes later as she sobbed over his lifeless body." Flight attendants had "assured the safety of the family's pet, so wearily, the mother agreed", Mr Lara said. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-14/dog-dies-locked-in-united-airlines-plane-overhead-locker/9546198 Edited March 14, 2018 by persephone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Best Dogs! Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Wtf at that flight attendant making them put the dog in the overhead luggage ?! :’( that poor family warning. One of the photos is of the dog dead in its carrier. 10 month old frenchie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 That poor , poor mum ... I can only imagine half of what she must be feeling . Dear little pup I would have really liked to lay that flight attendant flat out on the tarmac!!!!! :angry: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Yes, the airline and the flight attendant need to be seriously seriously punished, but who in their right mind would put a puppy in an overhead locker? You’d have to have a few marbles missing to even think for a second they’d be ventilated. This is horrible and that poor little dog; it makes me feel sick. What on earth were the other customers thinking ... they heard the dog barking. What is wrong with people? Everyone is at fault here. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Flying Furball Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 This was so awful...it almost ruined my day. That poor family 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asal Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 one passenger went and said they could hear him crying and stratching in desperation then when silent. cant believe no one realised the going silent was a big cause for major concern if not before that the time to act and get him out of there so tragic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 So many people will be wishing they had done something different now ...poor puppy ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roova Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 That was never ever going to end well. I'm lost trying to work out how such a ridiculous and cruel action was even taken and allowed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Roova said: That was never ever going to end well. I'm lost trying to work out how such a ridiculous and cruel action was even taken and allowed! Absolutely. Why on earth did no other passenger intervene? Just beyond understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Kisses Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 No words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDJ Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 This is the stuff that nightmares are made of - should never have happened for so many reasons. But I can sort of understand why no one may have twigged that the overhead lockers would cause suffocation. Yes, they click down firmly, but they are still in the cabin (so pressurised) and I for one didn't know they had an airtight seal. That does not take away from what the dog went through, or what any of the people now have to live with. And it certainly does not mean that I think putting him up their was acceptable. Even assuming people didn't realise about the airflow (or the inherent issues with the breeds breathing issues) - it was guaranteed to be uncomfortable, dark, scary, noisy, bumpy etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Yesterday, United screwed up again. They mixed up two dog crates ... The Dane got sent to some US destination and the GSD, booked on a domestic flight, got sent to Japan. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/united-airlines-dog-japan-missouri_us_5aa949dee4b0004c04067a57 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 hours ago, BDJ said: But I can sort of understand why no one may have twigged that the overhead lockers would cause suffocation. Yes, they click down firmly, but they are still in the cabin (so pressurised) and I for one didn't know they had an airtight seal. Really!! Think on this. Would you put your dog in a small carry-on crate and then shut him up in a drawer in your bedroom cupboard? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDJ Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Please read my full comments - taking one line out of context does not help I said - not acceptable, wrong on so many levels, and heartbreaking. !!!!! My comment about the overhead lockers being airtight was in response to people (here and other places) stating that it should be obvious to everyone that the overhead lockers are not ventilated (and in some cases that 'everyone' would know they were airtight). I personally dont think everyone would think that given they are in the main cabin. BUT that does not mean I believe a living anything should be put up there. Two separate points I was trying (and apparently failing to make). Should a living entity be put in a locker. NO. Would I know they were airtight. NO (and I would never find that out, cos I would not put a living dog/person/cat or bloody guinea pig in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casowner Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) As a Frenchie owner I am as appalled at the airline as I am the owner, Frenchies all have compromised breathing in some way compared to non braccy breeds to not get up and check the dog in 3 hours is disgusting, to allow it is just as appalling. People get up to get things out of their bag all of the time, I am sorry but the owner is just as responsible in my view Edited March 18, 2018 by casowner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 36 minutes ago, casowner said: As a Frenchie owner I am as appalled at the airline as I am the owner, Frenchies all have compromised breathing in some way compared to non braccy breeds to not get up and check the dog in 3 hours is disgusting, to allow it is just as appalling. People get up to get things out of their bag all of the time, I am sorry but the owner is just as responsible in my view Totally agree. What an example for the children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Gifts Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 The woman had a baby and a small child and apparently there was a lot of turbulence. I read that even though the dog cried and scratched for quite some time and it could easily be heard there was an inability for the owner to get up and check the pup during the flight because of the turbulence and I can imagine caring for 2 young children was also her priority, particularly if the flight was rough. Noone else checked on the dog either (maybe also due to turbulence and having to stay belted in their seats) but apparently another passenger did try to call the airline to double check the policy on having the dog under her seat but phone reception was poor. I have to say though if that was me I'd have gotten off the flight if I was being told something different on the plane than I'd been told when I booked my ticket. It's such a big risk. It actually shits me how passengers dump their stuff all over the floor rather than put them safely under the seats or in the seat back pockets because in bad turbulence or a mid-flight disaster all that stuff can become projectiles. Flight attendants often don't seem to care either but this one was way over the top about it. Safety is really important but so is following their own rules. The dogs can either fly in with passengers meeting certain safety conditions (for them and the passengers) or they have to go in the hold in an airline approved carrier. Noone in their right mind would think a locked, dark box was a great place to store an animal. You don't lock your dog in the boot when you go for a drive or in a small closed cupboard at home for hours. If you can't or don't put a human there then you don't put a pet there because we all need some similar things (like air circulation and controlled temps) to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 On 15/03/2018 at 4:41 PM, BDJ said: Please read my full comments - taking one line out of context does not help I said - not acceptable, wrong on so many levels, and heartbreaking. !!!!! My comment about the overhead lockers being airtight was in response to people (here and other places) stating that it should be obvious to everyone that the overhead lockers are not ventilated (and in some cases that 'everyone' would know they were airtight). I personally dont think everyone would think that given they are in the main cabin. BUT that does not mean I believe a living anything should be put up there. Two separate points I was trying (and apparently failing to make). Should a living entity be put in a locker. NO. Would I know they were airtight. NO (and I would never find that out, cos I would not put a living dog/person/cat or bloody guinea pig in there. You said, “I can sort of understand.....”. No, it is incomprehensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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