sandgrubber Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) Has anyone seen anything about what breeds/types go farel? My sense is that some breed contribute nothing to the farel gene pool, and other, quite a lot. Edited March 10, 2018 by sandgrubber Further thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogsAndTheMob Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 On 09/03/2018 at 8:27 PM, Thistle the dog said: Hey all, that person I watch posted some updates on their local feral dogs. They found one of the current litter of puppies wandering in a storm and have taken it in. Will be interesting to see how it behaves, being a few generations removed from human handling: I Thanks for posting this. They’re amazingly healthy-looking, although the rescued puppy looks like the runt of the litter (or possibly a different litter or different sire). He looks as if he might have prick ears as an adult dog. I wonder if the puppies all have the same sire and if the sire(s) are dogs from the feral group or domestic dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogsAndTheMob Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, sandgrubber said: Has anyone seen anything about what breeds/types go farel? My sense is that some breed contribute nothing to the farel gene pool, and other, quite a lot. I’ve read some old newspaper articles about particularly troublesome wild dogs. One appeared to be mostly husky, and another one looked like a border-collie cross. However, that’s just a couple of examples, and most wild dogs don’t look like any particular breed. Herding and hunting breeds that are more likely to be worked in the bush, and high energy breeds that are frequently exercised near the bush would be at greater risk of getting lost in the bush. I suspect many of those die a lonely, miserable death, poor things. Chance may be a big factor determining which ones survive long enough to add to the feral gene pool. Edited March 10, 2018 by DogsAndTheMob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Best Dogs! Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) These particular dogs “base stock” were beagles, bloodhounds, Fox hounds etc. interestingly this area also has a couple of roaming domestic stray dogs (a terrier type, a beagle cross) and the ferals don’t seem to interact with them but the other domestic dogs will. The relatives of the watcher are keeping the little runt one and they are trying to catch the other puppies to hand to shelters or home to ppl Note: These dogs are in america Edited March 11, 2018 by Thistle the dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pjrt Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I’ve seen red/sandy coloured, what I’d call yellow, and Black and Tan wild dogs together on the Nullarbor miles from anywhere. All appeared Dingo size & type 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Mixed breeds here all have kelpie/dingo base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Dingoes come in a variety of colours... depending where they are from mainly... I recently had 3 pure pups here (DNA checked) that were black and tan... very pretty! T. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamanthaC Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 This is a wild dog I mounted for Vic gov last year. From Eastern vic /Alps area. I've had quite a few this color and also white with black or tan with shaggy coats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Best Dogs! Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 This is tangently related to the topic of wild dogs and how genes change. Someone had their suspected coydog (an actual genuine coydog) DNA tested. https://my.embarkvet.com/dog/frenzi i wonder how the coydog population compares to dingo hybrids. Do they then merge in with the wild population and become (visually) indistinguishable from “true” dingo/coyote after awhile? A bit of a boost to transitioning visually at least compared to the red feral pack that don’t have the “help” of true feral relatives to share genes with (but have started keeping self separate from roaming domestics)? some pictures of the mix: http://pupcontent.tumblr.com/post/172662997682/frenzis-embark-dog-dna-results 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Best Dogs! Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Update on "Midge", the feral runt pup that was caught. She is developing upright ears! I think this makes her the first of the feral pack they've seen to have uprights: she is described as taming up wonderfully and fond of cuddles in comparison, one feral pup and an adult feral ("Little"): that one white feral: the tricolour wasn't in their recent photos, wonder where it is at? I believe someone was coming in to catch some of them, maybe they caught it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 They are so pretty... and so healthy looking... sad that they are feral and cause issues... "Little" looks like there may be some Beagle in the mix somewhere... Midge is gorgeous! T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Best Dogs! Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) Midge is s confirmed first upright ears! Look at their size! i wonder if her healthier pet diet contributes to stronger ears? The remaining two feral puppies are flop eared. The red mum appears pregnant again. Hoping they succeed in catching her Edited June 14, 2018 by Thistle the dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 OMG! Those ears are to die for... lol! All the better to hear when the treats are coming out, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Midge!! there's upright , and there's magnificent !! She is just gorgeous ...... What an absolute little star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 10 hours ago, Thistle the dog said: i wonder if her healthier pet diet contributes to stronger ears? I would presume a different father , rather than a better quality diet .... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Best Dogs! Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) The feral dog poster has been sharing lots of photos lately! First is the startling contrast between the runt who has “tamed up” nicely and the pup they were unable to catch midge so far appears the only up ears. But with her drastic size difference and shape I do wonder if a domestic roaming dog didn’t contribute to her DNA to have her so varied to the rest versus feral ears transitioning to up? Edited August 7, 2018 by Thistle the dog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Best Dogs! Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 The red mum had pups and the family managed to catch them! The big white girl is going to a family member and the red with a “ridge” on her nose went to a coworker so hopefully we will get to see how they mature up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdierikx Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Loving how healthy the wild older pup is looking... and Midge is SOOOO pretty! Pity the family can't catch some of the mums and get them desexed... but then again, those girls would be pretty smart about getting caught by now... *sigh* T. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOLO Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Dingos ARE "Wild Dogs" They can and do breed with other dogs that have gone feral, but technically there is no distinction. So when the APB refers to "Wild Dogs" that includes Dingos so you may well find that your local "Wild Dogs" are comprised mostly of the Dingo breed. Dingos are supposedly descended from similar dogs that arrived around 5,000 years ago, so its not surprising that over those thousands of years a fairly narrow phenotype developed. Furthermore, like a resistant bacteria, its not surprising that after 200 years of being hunted, shot, and baited, they are not only fully adapted to the Australian bush, but have become very difficult to capture and kill. A domestic dog that goes feral has none of those "advantages" so I would imagine their survival rate is much lower, and hence why the dingo characteristics continue to dominate the Wild Dog population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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