juice Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 Still hasn't pooped since Friday and lethargic now. going to ring the vets this morning and find out how long the Cerenia jab lasts, (no idea apart from bumping up the bill ), why he gave it to her, not impressed tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappi&Monty Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Oh that’s not nice news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) She finally pooped , very dry and she struggled . Just called vets to see how long it lasts as still lethargic , and nurse said it doesn’t have that effect , ( every website I checked said it does) . 24 hours is what she said . However just googled Metrogyl which he gave her too and that also can cause it and constipation . Wish I hadn’t gone at all now and looking for new vet ! Edited December 23, 2017 by juice 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 Also discovered VANS do a kibble now which looks good , albeit pricey ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crazydoglady99 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Would it be worth trying a turkey only barf? Like the big dog one? Stick to it for 3 weeks and see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulesP Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Try and get some liquid into her. She might be dehydrated. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 all stuff you do not need ... poor pup . I have not heard of Cerenia - so just Googled . Lethargy is a side effect .... It is anti-emetic . Can you make her some chicken soup ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappi&Monty Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, juice said: Also discovered VANS do a kibble now which looks good , albeit pricey ! Oh cool, didn’t know that. I have used the original muesli type stuff and the new rehydratable Balanced Life one but that STINKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappi&Monty Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, juice said: She finally pooped , very dry and she struggled . Just called vets to see how long it lasts as still lethargic , and nurse said it doesn’t have that effect , ( every website I checked said it does) . 24 hours is what she said . However just googled Metrogyl which he gave her too and that also can cause it and constipation . Wish I hadn’t gone at all now and looking for new vet ! Oh no, wishing you luck with finding someone better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottsmum Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 hours ago, juice said: She finally pooped , very dry and she struggled . Just called vets to see how long it lasts as still lethargic , and nurse said it doesn’t have that effect , ( every website I checked said it does) . 24 hours is what she said . However just googled Metrogyl which he gave her too and that also can cause it and constipation . Wish I hadn’t gone at all now and looking for new vet ! Pretty sure I sent you a recommendation a few months ago. Not crazy close, but a good stop gap til you can find someone closer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) sorry SM , forgot about that. Can you send it again please. She is drinking fine, i googled Cerenia and its for excessive vomiting when they can't stop and travel sickness, i hardly think chucking up a bit of bile a couple of times in last week comes under excessive vomiting! Scrappi, it was the Balanced life i thought looked ok, however it costs a fortune . She seems a bit happier now, she has 5 more days on the Metrogyl, and 2 weeks od cephalexinto go. Pro plan looks the best of the bunch so far. Edited December 24, 2017 by juice 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, juice said: i googled Cerenia and its for excessive vomiting when they can't stop and travel sickness, i hardly think chucking up a bit of bile a couple of times in last week comes under excessive vomiting! I also don't understand this ..... hopefully the two pronged approach of AB ( including anti-protozoans) will clear everything up!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 its was $90 for the jab, its upselling, overkill, and just lost them a customer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossumCorner Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 How's Zelda going Juice? Rheneas is excellent after his bad bout of diarrhoea before Christmas. It was a much cheaper trip than yours for a good outcome. All he had was anti-biotics, pain killer and re-hydration - plus a little while on a 'bland' diet til he came good. The vet was a bit non-commital at best about kangaroo, stopped short of saying don't feed it but I felt that was the drift (mentioned in Boronia's kangaroo meat thread). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 I had completely forgotten my old vet used to tell me to give Bonn half a Zantac tab if she had a dicky tum . I have weaned her off all her old food and she is now in Proplan sensitive which she loves , although her coat isn’t shiny anymore . 2 people suggested Costco fish and potatoes which is a third of the price , but while she is ok on this going to see how we go first . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boronia Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Ages back the vet put Penny, my old Westie on Zantac syrup for her sore tum, it wasn't overly cheap and I asked my doctor about it so he wrote me out a script for a 300ml bottle (my doctor has a dog, we talk about dogs) I can't remember what Penny's dosage was but it was a minuscule amount and would have lasted her 'till she was 45 but she passed away before even a smidgen of the contents was used. Anyway, perhaps get a script from your doctor Juice, as unfortunatel,y you can't buy it over the counter at a chemists, at least it'll save you some money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 You can buy Zantac tabs over the counter , because my dogs are heavier it’s ok to give half a tablet . It wasn’t till I met my friend over Xmas with her Belgian I mentioned the big vet bill , she goes there and used to use our old vet there too and she reminded me and said she does it too . Old age seems to be making me forget . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha bet Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Couple of questions... what breed is your dog?.... also have you emailed Dr Bruce Syme from VAN with the issues?.... Ive been feeding raw using the VAN mix for years now on many different dogs and really don't believe that the VAN is what causes the sort of problems you are talking about... You have had your dog and and off different things for a while now along with various meds which is probably throwing the whole system out of whack.... What you describe later still sounds as tho she may have a bit of a blockage... dogs can still poo (usually loose and squirty) around a small blockage... but then the intestines are under stress and may not be getting a chance to heal properly so the problem keeps re-occuring. Can become a vicious cycle with taking meds which can just mask the problem and then stop the meds and the problems start again. Diet should always be considered as a start point.... but sometimes it is best to keep things simple.... you have used the VAN diet in the past and have to say this will usually provide much of the needs. probiotics and prebiotics we just use yoghurt... we also will feed the dogs some fruits, banana is good and add some oil. Perhaps it would be good to keep your dog off meat for a time and wait to see if their gut settles down - instead just use veggies where you can either grate or lightly steam veggies and use with the VAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 Bull terrier. She actually vomited again yesterday, late arvo again, bile , a bit of bone in there. I did pull a bit of bone out of her mouth the day before on the walk she found while we were walking down the street and she did make a grab at some duck poo several times that day too as it had been raining and it was on the grass verge. Her poop is solid, no wind atm, off all meds now. I am still not convinced its the food either, more the crap she grabs at. I gave her a chicken frame for tea last night, she had never had one before and took her 20 mins to work it out, for a dog that shreds cushions and toys in seconds i was surprised! i will email Dr symes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuralPug Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 You might be on to something with the rubbish eaten on walks. You can give the best diet in the world and they will poison themselves with rubbish if they can get it. Why not try muzzling her for walks for a few weeks and see if that makes any difference. Also look at treats that you may not be consciously counting as food - a lot of commercial dog treats are pretty shoddy fare, raw hides and stuff like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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