Dog breeding facility planned for Bathurst

[Teebs]

Sorry, I can’t copy the article on my phone! Someone else may be able to do it !!

 

http://www.westernadvocate.com.au/story/5008072/dog-breeding-facility-proposed-near-koala-feed-trees-south-of-bathurst/?cs=115

 

 

[Scrappi&Monty]

Dog breeding facility proposed near koala feed trees south of Bathurst

AN animal breeding facility planned for Fosters Valley could be built alongside a known koala feeding habitat if plans now before Bathurst Regional Council are approved.

Rockley Valley Park Pty Ltd plans to build an $841,000 breeding facility to supply dogs to a Kellyville pet store.

 

A statement of environmental effects [SoEE] lodged as part of the development application says it would include 15 kennels; a building containing 20 whelping (birthing) kennels; eight mating kennels; a grooming shed; and a number of dogs runs, outdoor fenced areas and dog socialisation areas.

The breeding facility would take up about two hectares of a 100 hectare site at the corner of Rockley Road and Black Mountain Road, about 21 kilometres south of Bathurst.

“The proposed facility seeks to raise well socialised puppies that have experienced love and care at the site and have been properly trained prior to the dogs being sold at the Kellyville Pets facility,” the SoEE states.

A key concern for the SoEE was the proposed site’s proximity to koala “feed trees” along the western boundary of the 100 hectare site.

 

However, the SoEE states the distance between the breeding facility and koala habitat meant no koalas were likely to be harmed by the dogs.

“Due to the fact that there are no trees in the vicinity of the dog breeding facility, there is no potential habitat for koalas,” it states.

“The only potential interaction between koalas and the land at the south-western part of the site where the proposed dog breeding facility is to be located would be if a koala was walking on the ground which can occur mostly by male koalas seeking new territories or in search of a female.”

The SoEE recommends “non-koala feed trees” be planted around the site and two perimeter fences will be built around the facility.

“The area of the proposed dog breeding facility does not contain any core koala habitat and no koalas have been identified on the site,” it states.

“However, koala sightings have been made in the vicinity of the subject site.

“The two perimeter fences will provide a physical barrier to the koalas from the dog kennels and the dense conifer hedge proposed along both Black Mountain Road frontage and Rockley Road frontage will also deter koalas.”

Special protocols will be put in place to be followed if a koala is seen in the area after the facility is built.

 

[Scottsmum]

Sweet Jesus. 

 

So much more than just the koalas going on here.

 

[Teebs]

An update 

 

http://www.westernadvocate.com.au/story/5011795/dog-breeding-facility-will-be-built-as-an-exemplar-for-the-industry/?cs=119

[Little Gifts]

"A statement of environmental effects [SoEE] lodged as part of the development application says it would include 15 kennels; a building containing 20 whelping (birthing) kennels; eight mating kennels; a grooming shed; and a number of dogs runs, outdoor fenced areas and dog socialisation areas."

 

Yes and they will only employ 3 people to do all of that probably so we know it's all bullshit just like all the other puppy farms. Some very telling information here. If they need 20 whelping kennels you can imagine how many bitches they are planning on keeping and how many puppies they are hoping to pump out. Also it said they were breeding to supply to one specific pet shop. Bloody hell that means that pet shop must be some kind of puppy warehouse. Or they will also be selling online.

 

It's all just smoke and mirrors. You can't use farming practices to raise a healthy and well socialised companion animal regardless of how much money you put into it, especially if you don't have a suitable staff to animal ratio. I just imagine the stress on the dogs of living in what equates to a flashy pound environment - cages, lots of barking from other stressed dogs in a non-home like environment and random human interaction.

[stellnme]

To supply dogs to his own pet store - yep, what could go wrong with that. Way to go, P.I.A.A. - while the rest of Australia campaigns to shut down these hell holes, he starts another for the "industry."   And let's not worry about destroying the Koala's habitat in the meantime.

[_PL_]

Nobody with the authority is interested in closing places that don't break the POCTAA and local council bylaws.  So if you build a nice shiny facility within the welfare recommendations/Acts you are free to keep and breed as many as your permit allows without anything to stop you. 
It was inevitable given the grotty places are being closed/raided, the industry still needs livestock to sell. 

[_PL_]

Kellyville also sell rescue cats. A token gesture. 

[Pjrt]

I cannot for the life of me understand why me fellow dog groomers still support the PIAA through membership, attending trade shows and entering competitions. I’ve begged them to try to really understand what the PIAA stand for in regards to dog breeding. My groomer friends universally decry puppy farming, but then go and compete at a PIAA event. 

Im trying to walk the talk, and from now on I’m even going to be asking my suppliers if they are members. 

 

[karen15]

it just shows people aren't interested in stopping puppy farming. Boutique dogs - give me a break. Expensive mongrels. The subsequent article says the business plans to invite breeders to visit the facility to give them training and show them a benchmark level of care - for want of a better summary. You have to be kidding me.

[Pjrt]

There’s one word in there that should disturb pet lovers & ethical dog breeders everywhere...... INDUSTRY. Slowly but surely they eroding the public’s perspective to believe that dog breeding should be an Industry.  Not about actual sentient beings anymore, just an industry treated like any other industry. 
Don’t let dog breeding turn into an industry, only to find later we need to lobby for ‘improvements to industry standards’ etc, like we do with other farmed animals......HOW ABOUT WE JUST DONT LET DOG BREEDING BECOME A FARMING INDUSTRY IN THE FIRST PLACE!

[Pjrt]

18 minutes ago, karen15 said:

it just shows people aren't interested in stopping puppy farming. Boutique dogs - give me a break. Expensive mongrels. The subsequent article says the business plans to invite breeders to visit the facility to give them training and show them a benchmark level of care - for want of a better summary. You have to be kidding me.

The problem is that regular Jill and John pet buyer going in to Kellyville or other pet stores supplied by the puppy farms are, quite truthfully told, that these puppies come from ‘registered breeders’. Knowing no better, Jill and John can’t distinguish between the types of registered breeder on offer these days. They walk away with a puppy from a registered breeder, a facility that meets all the requirement, standards and licensing and ‘ registration’  and is completely lawful. 

 

Powerlegs hit hit the nail with this post. No body is interested in fighting the good fight. Because moral rarely trumps legal.

 

its ironic that the “war on puppy farms” has just led to, ummm, .....puppy farms.

2 hours ago, Powerlegs said:

Nobody with the authority is interested in closing places that don't break the POCTAA and local council bylaws.  So if you build a nice shiny facility within the welfare recommendations/Acts you are free to keep and breed as many as your permit allows without anything to stop you. 
It was inevitable given the grotty places are being closed/raided, the industry still needs livestock to sell. 

 

[Scrappi&Monty]

Saddening to see. While there are plenty of rescue dogs already needing homes, and “accidental litters” left right and centre, and while there are so many people trying desperately to shut down puppy farming, that they would open a mass produced puppy factory. No matter how clean & good the facilities are, as others have mentioned that is no way to raise a well adjusted family member. 

They will be selling pups for $1000s profit. 

 

Would be great if registered breeders were limited to the caring, ethical, small scale hobby breeders who love dogs, are experts, and have the ability to well socialise and care for their animals.  

And it is such a shame that the general public are so mislead due to the many forms of “registration”. A “registered breeder” could refer simply to council registry, or State registry (like Dogs NSW) etc, or something like MDBA (or whatever it’s called) 

Edited October 26, 2017 by Scrappi&Monty

[_PL_]

I don't doubt pro-retail Pets Australia are gleeful. At the very last MDBA event I attended I had an (award winner btw) gent try to hand me the PA bosses' card. We rescinded our membership after that.

 

https://petsaustralia.org/the-big-issues/pets-in-pet-shops/

Edited October 26, 2017 by Powerlegs

[Pjrt]

http://wixxyleaks.com/howl-pet-industry-lobbyist-caught-out-lying/

 

 

[Scottsmum]

8 hours ago, Little Gifts said:

Also it said they were breeding to supply to one specific pet shop. Bloody hell that means that pet shop must be some kind of puppy warehouse. Or they will also be selling online.

Its a huge shop. Been on the site well over 20 years in an incredibly well off & growing part of Sydney. 

 

We used to pop out there a bit to look at fish stuff (when we had a tank) as it was on the aquarium run, but they lost my when they held a school holiday "competition" where everyone won a Betta (Siamese Fighter)

[Little Gifts]

The more I hear the more sickened I feel for all the poor animals that might pass through this hellhole if it gets approved. Greedy, lying, money grubbing sacks of shit! What is wrong with people that they can't see how badly they are being ripped off by these businesses? How can they not tell the difference between quality and support from a good registered breeder and selling simply for profit? If people got wise, businesses like this would die a natural death. I want to bang my head until it bleeds right now.

[Scottsmum]

4 hours ago, Little Gifts said:

...What is wrong with people that they can't see how badly they are being ripped off by these businesses? How can they not tell the difference between quality and support from a good registered breeder and selling simply for profit?

I think:

Some people don't care. 

Some people are naive. 

 

You gotta remember you're amongst "the converted" here. Not everyone  has the same knowledge & goes through life thinking status quo is ok. I know I certainly did re: pet nutrition until Scottie forced me to become much better educated. I even had a dog who "lived til 15 on nothing but Pal" a few years ago...

 

 

Edit: not entirely eloquent & well said. Hope you get what I mean. Basically I think its the old "if its for sale it must be ok adage"

Edited October 26, 2017 by Scottsmum

[moosmum]

Sadly, a lot of it also comes from pedigree breeders trying to tell people that dog breeding is a pastime for experts and not some thing that should be done in the backyard with your pets- Instead of actualy teaching people how to avoid the pitfalls,  what a good breeder does and why to get the best results.

 

Crack down on 'backyard breeding', rather than the specific practices you are associating with the term, and what else can you expect?

Edited October 27, 2017 by moosmum

[dogbesotted]

this trend of industrial production of animals brings no good to the animals, the industrial production of pets  brings no good to animals nor to owners.. but works well to line the pockets of the business owner.