_PL_ Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) Sadly a child was bitten on the face. I'm going to attach the original unblurred version of the photo so you can see what the dog's nose is on. LINK TO ARTICLE & CLIP Quote A 12-year-old boy has been mauled by a pet bull-mastiff cross at a family friend's home in Kenwick on Sunday night. Nine News Perth reporter Alice Pooley said the dog's owner Katrina Haywood believes the boy woke Snowy, a two-year-old bull-mastiff cross breed, when he startled and latched onto the child's face and body, biting him repeatedly. "The dog was asleep on my bed when my friend's son came in and sat on the bed," Ms Haywood, a mother as well, said. "He must have startled him and before i knew it he latched onto his face. I couldn't get him off." © 9 News Perth Two-year-old Snowy will most likey be put down after the attack. The boy was rushed to Princess Margaret Hospital with sever injuries and sustained dozens of stitches. The bull mastiff cross was taken away from the home on Monday morning and a ranger told the Ms Haywood that the dog would most likely be put down after the savage attack. "He is my best friend," The dog owner said. "I don't think he should be punished for something he didn't deliberately do." Just two weeks ao a bull mastiff cross was put down by Gosnells rangers after attacking and killin its onwer. Edited August 15, 2017 by Powerlegs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 This has been all over FB. The owner's daughter claims the photo of the dog with the crack pipe was taken with the dogs previous owner. The dog does not look like a mastiff cross to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappi&Monty Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I'm with Rebanne on that... why do they labelling them as "bullmastiff crosses"?! The two dogs mentioned barely look like bullmastiffs and there's no point creating even more stereotypes about breeds & bsl etc. They're just going to make the public afraid of bullmastiffs like the media has with "pitbulls" etc. The dog in this article looked like a Labrador mix to me... to me it doesnt look like a bullmastiff at all whatsoever...! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) Doesn't look much like a bull mastiff X to me either, but apparently that's how the owner herself has described the dog. My thoughts are with the poor young lad - he's probably going to have a very long road to recovery, involving extensive plastic surgery, not to mention the emotional and mental scars he'll carry for the rest of his life Edited August 15, 2017 by spikey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PL_ Posted August 15, 2017 Author Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) I didn't put the breed in the title because of the mis-labelling. I've seen a couple that just say the dog was straight bull mastiff. I did feel bad for her, she looked appropriately distraught in the clip but I don't believe the story about the pipe for some reason. Poor boy. He's going to be in pain for a long time. It would have been terrifying. Do you think people get bull arab confused with bull mastiff? Edited August 15, 2017 by Powerlegs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappi&Monty Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Powerlegs said: Do you think people get bull arab confused with bull mastiff? True, that's probably case actually. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a little bull arab in him, that would be more likely than mastiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuralPug Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 The thing that most people get confused with is that mastiff is a type as well as a breed. The Mastiff breed is one of the gentlest that I have ever owned, but they, and other gentle mastiff breeds, are used unfortunately to add bulk and power to less gentle types of dogs leading sometimes to some quite dangerous mixes. Most of the Bull Mastiffs that I have met are as gentle as their Mastiff ancestors, but those breeding for pig dog traits or similar seem to select for the bull breed ancestor temperament, which my have been where the reputation arose. All of the bull arab types contain some mastiff - often it is Great Dane, another usually gentle mastiff. The traditional original bull arab mix was mastiff type x pointer type x sighthound type x bull breed type, varying a little in the mix depending on location. I agree that "bull mastiff cross" is increasingly being used to identify any large smooth coated mixed breed, sometimes (sigh) because the owners themselves wish to own a "powerful and dangerous" dog, in spite of it not having any bull mastiff at all in its ancestry. Such owners, to me, are sadly lacking in testosterone and trying to compensate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 You only have to look at the RSPCA adoption page to see how wrong breed ID is! they clearly have NFI! That looks like a mixed crossbreed, even lab, but they would never label it that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 hour ago, juice said: You only have to look at the RSPCA adoption page to see how wrong breed ID is! they clearly have NFI! That looks like a mixed crossbreed, even lab, but they would never label it that. If someone showed me that photograph, with or without context, I would say Lab or Lab cross. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karen15 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 The story is a very good example of why you teach a drop it command and a leave it command. Dogs should always be able to release. It's when they haven't been taught and then people basically attack them to try and get them off, that causes them not to let go IMO I made it a point with my staffy to teach him to let go of things in highly emotive situations eg mid rough and tumble game of tug where he would be latched onto his tuggie rope playing aeroplanes. I'd give him a safe landing and tell him to drop it. Combine that with a leave it and whatever has been dropped is left alone. if you have a dog that can do damage when it bites IMO you have a responsibility to train it to release on command. Agree with the lab comments, that was my first thought when I saw the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgrubber Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Awfully pointy for a Lab, and the set of the shoulder blade is wrong. Looks more like a greyhound to me. But really...breed identification is not easy for probable mutts, and with a photo like that, it's impossible. Maybe they should just say 'large dog' and show what they have for a picture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 2:12 PM, sandgrubber said: Awfully pointy for a Lab, and the set of the shoulder blade is wrong. Looks more like a greyhound to me. But really...breed identification is not easy for probable mutts, and with a photo like that, it's impossible. Maybe they should just say 'large dog' and show what they have for a picture. Same. Possibly with some staffy or amstaff in there but definitely not much (if any) bull mastiff that I can see. From the two pictures I saw, he's not what I'd describe as a typical bull arab, either. No sign of dane or any other molosser, no slant to the eyes from bull terrier or ticking from pointer, overall look is wrong. Maybe one parent was a roo dog and I'd guess greyhound in his background is very likely but at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter much. A panicked, single bite from sleep startles would be one thing but it sounds as if this dog bit repeatedly, over a substantial area. Whether or not the attack had anything to do with the object in the photo (which may or may not have belonged to the current owner of the dog), who knows. That said, I'm willing to bet that people who take casual photos of their dogs with incidental drug paraphernalia are probably not the sort of people who take the time to socialise and appropriately manage their dog's behaviours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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