Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 and yet a man in SA who shot a cat with four arrows and left it still alive - got suspended sentence. Argh. Link to comment
Little Gifts Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Only 6 months? If he is capable of that he is capable of harm to humans. At his young age there are plenty more years for his bloodlust to need feeding. A normal person would not be able to hear an animal screaming in fear and pain and get excited over it. Sadly, it wont be the last we hear of him. 1 Link to comment
petlover0316 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Too much animal cruelty. Sometimes, I can't just imagine how people can be this cruel. 2 Link to comment
cannibalgoldfish Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I have been wanting to ask this but I didn't know how to, so please excuse me if I don't make sense. This guy got jail time for setting his hunting dogs on animals, right? How is this any different from people who go out pig hunting with dogs? The dogs chase and hold the pigs.. and by hold I mean grab and latch on. Is this actually illegal? I know of many people in the Top End who go pig hunting this way... I don't agree with animals tearing into other animals for sport/hunting by the way.... But I was just wondering? 1 Link to comment
Papillon Kisses Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) Protected native species vs feral pigs? (that's in response to you @cannibalgoldfish) Edited August 12, 2017 by Papillon Kisses Link to comment
cannibalgoldfish Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) I thought one of the critters was a goat? I assumed it was feral. Ah, and a fox, and a cat... Edited August 12, 2017 by cannibalgoldfish Link to comment
persephone Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 3 hours ago, cannibalgoldfish said: How is this any different from people who go out pig hunting with dogs? The dogs chase and hold the pigs.. and by hold I mean grab and latch on. Is this actually illegal? I THINK it's a very different scenario ... usually , if pig hunting is done correctly .. dogs grab the pig by the ears ..and hold it until the hunter dispatches it quickly and cleanly with a knife. THis form of pig hunting is widely carried out in areas where firearms are not permitted - yes, and also by hoons , sadly . A couple of our Koolies were very clinical and efficient at holding strongly , way back when we were much younger , and pigs were a problem . Link to comment
Papillon Kisses Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 9 hours ago, cannibalgoldfish said: I thought one of the critters was a goat? I assumed it was feral. Ah, and a fox, and a cat... Ah, I was just responding to the headline. Didn't want to open the article... Link to comment
persephone Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Papillon Kisses said: Ah, I was just responding to the headline. Didn't want to open the article... wise move . Not pleasant at all. I really dislike folks who make death into their entertainment . 1 Link to comment
BarbedWire Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 I also did not open the article. They are all animals and feral animals did not ask to be born. Their existence is the result of human activity. Hold the responsible humans down and tear them apart. I hate cruelty to animals in any shape or form. Persephone with respect because I have no personal experience but I think this "if pig hunting is done correctly .. dogs grab the pig by the ears ..and hold it until the hunter dispatches it quickly and cleanly with a knife. " would also be painful for the pig. 1 Link to comment
persephone Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 SARS, yes,it is painful, and stressful, but not much else can be done where firearms cannot be used. I believe it is also 'preferable' to the agonising death from 1080, or to being live trapped, then killed. Live trapping is terribly stressful for any wild animal, pigs especially. I won't go into detail. These animals are wonderful in their own right, they are not where they belong,though. 1 Link to comment
Lhok Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Where feral pigs are concerned the damage they do to the environment and the rate at which they repopulate not to mention once they get full sized there is really nothing that can bring them down does mean they need to be culled. The best and most efficient way is to use dogs, unless people are willing to put up with the massive killing baits do. So yes I guess the answer would be that it is painful for the pig, and yes while it isn't their fault for being a feral animal I feel we need to look at the over arching damage done I feel the same way for many feral animals. I know of a farmer who lost a whole harvest of potatoes and spent so much money of fencing only to have it broken down due to feral pigs. Just in case I get flamed here, I don't actually hunt. --Lhok 1 Link to comment
lillypilly Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Kaleb Kennedy broke his bail conditions set by the Victorian Court. He will face court in Victoria once out of custody in NSW. This persons charges include burglary, theft, various traffic offences and aggravated animal cruelty. Kaleb Kennedy is the grandson of Les and Linda Murphy. The Murphy's operated Strathbogie Puppy Factory - google as an interesting read. Kaleb Kennedy's mother is Jodie Murphy, aka Jodie Knox, owner of Murray River Puppies. . 1 Link to comment
Tempus Fugit Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 6 hours ago, sarsplodicus said: I also did not open the article. They are all animals and feral animals did not ask to be born. Their existence is the result of human activity. Hold the responsible humans down and tear them apart. I hate cruelty to animals in any shape or form. Persephone with respect because I have no personal experience but I think this "if pig hunting is done correctly .. dogs grab the pig by the ears ..and hold it until the hunter dispatches it quickly and cleanly with a knife. " would also be painful for the pig. So is it then hypocritical to denounce live baiting of greyhounds while supporting dogging of pigs? Generally pig dog pups have to be trained to hunt before they are loosed on adult pigs and for that piglets are used. I've only ever come across one NZ site where the young pig dogs are muzzled when being worked on pigs. By the way, if you really want to see cruelty in pig dogging search on the phrase 'Adu Bagong'. Link to comment
persephone Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Hmmm ... there are pig hunters..and there are D!ckheads Some piggers have no compassion ...for the pigs, or their dogs. Around here , pups are just taken out on hunts with the adults .... let in on the less dangerous bits . Our Koolies were certainly never trained on piglets ..YUK. ..They just did it .. they knew where the safe spots were .They were never hurt, neither did they do it regularly - but if a pig popped up during sheepwork - it was caught & despatched . My Kieran was a pig dog prospect , dumped because he was scared... ( thankfully) Link to comment
persephone Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Oh .. and live baiting of greyhounds is not for the purpose of culling ferals ..it's to make dogs run for money . Horrible way to do it. None of it is "right" really ... Link to comment
Scrappi&Monty Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 hours ago, lillypilly said: Kaleb Kennedy broke his bail conditions set by the Victorian Court. He will face court in Victoria once out of custody in NSW. This persons charges include burglary, theft, various traffic offences and aggravated animal cruelty. Kaleb Kennedy is the grandson of Les and Linda Murphy. The Murphy's operated Strathbogie Puppy Factory - google as an interesting read. Kaleb Kennedy's mother is Jodie Murphy, aka Jodie Knox, owner of Murray River Puppies. . Oh. So it runs in the family. How on earth can people be so terrible? Obviously they aren't a very nice bunch of people to be around! Also so dangerous to humans w/ regards to burglary & traffic offences. 1 Link to comment
lillypilly Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Shepparton News A man who was sent to prison for six months for the abuse of animals has faced another charge while in prison. Kaleb Kennedy, 21, from Cobram, faced Shepparton Magistrates’ Court via videolink from prison on two charges of receiving stolen goods and handling proceeds of crime. Kennedy pleaded guilty. Police prosecutor Leading Senior Constable Kim Talbot told the court that the bullbar was stolen from a man in Gunnedah in north-eastern NSW in June last year. Police uncovered the stolen bullbar at Kennedy’s Cobram home during a search 10 days later. When interviewed, Kennedy told police that he bought the bullbar from a person he met at a rodeo in Tamworth, but when asked he could only remember a first name for the seller. He was convicted and fined $2500 plus court costs. Kennedy is serving six months in prison for training his pet dogs to hunt and kill wild animals. He was sentenced in July for a range of animal cruelty offences in Victoria and Southern NSW during a period of months in 2016. He is due to be released from prison in December. Link to comment
PossumCorner Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 At least he got a sentence of sorts. I am gutted that a Darwin pony was shot to death with a crossbow, and the 17 year old who "turned himself in" was interviewed and released, police have the (illegal) weapon. And those beautiful little wallabies that were slaughtered in the same way in the same area, wonder if it was the same person. 1 Link to comment
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